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Old Dec 8, 2013 | 08:25 PM
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Using the SCA treated filters would be a way to cause an issue using a coolant filter. So, perhaps, the OP'S shop installs them on other brand's diesel trucks...

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Old Dec 8, 2013 | 08:48 PM
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Old Dec 8, 2013 | 08:57 PM
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I guess "unsubscribed" is the same as "talk to the hand" (twice no less)

I did at least consider this shops position and did a bit of searching for supporting information before dismissing it. The consensus here is clear to me.

Off track just a little but I did think it was interesting to find the silicate we are talking about (in automotive coolant) is sodium silicate. This is the same stuff as Liquid Glass. Wal-Mart used to sell it in the pharmacy, you could find it with the rubbing alcohol and witch hazel. I have used it to seal rusty motorcycles gas tanks and it is the main active ingredient in StopLeak.

I can say I don't think your truck will blow up without a coolant filter but if there is any trash in the system a filter will clearly be helpful. If there is no trash, a filter is not capable of removing beneficial chemicals from your coolant until they have solidified. Any coolant that requires testing and a SCA loaded filter will be labeled as such and suggested testing and treatment intervals will be listed on the packaging. A coolant that doesn't specify testing/SCA intervals should not be treated. All coolant filter manufacturers I looked at offer non treated filters.

I can only hope my ideas are clear despite the undoubtedly numerous grammatical errors in this post my limited education prevents me from identifying.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2013 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Rusty Axlerod
I guess "unsubscribed" is the same as "talk to the hand" (twice no less)

I did at least consider this shops position and did a bit of searching for supporting information before dismissing it. The consensus here is clear to me.

Off track just a little but I did think it was interesting to find the silicate we are talking about (in automotive coolant) is sodium silicate. This is the same stuff as Liquid Glass. Wal-Mart used to sell it in the pharmacy, you could find it with the rubbing alcohol and witch hazel. I have used it to seal rusty motorcycles gas tanks and it is the main active ingredient in StopLeak.

I can say I don't think your truck will blow up without a coolant filter but if there is any trash in the system a filter will clearly be helpful. If there is no trash, a filter is not capable of removing beneficial chemicals from your coolant until they have solidified. Any coolant that requires testing and a SCA loaded filter will be labeled as such and suggested testing and treatment intervals will be listed on the packaging. A coolant that doesn't specify testing/SCA intervals should not be treated. All coolant filter manufacturers I looked at offer non treated filters.

I can only hope my ideas are clear despite the undoubtedly numerous grammatical errors in this post my limited education prevents me from identifying.
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But I do agree.

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Old Dec 8, 2013 | 09:55 PM
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I love it when a plan comes together.

Misky nailed the potential confusing issue. My coolant filter system, (probably like the others) comes with two types of filters. One with sca additive abs one without. Because I run silicate free coolant, I use the filter without the sca additive.

If you don't know the difference, don't post in this thread and don't do your own maintenance because your going to mess up your truck.

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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 12:43 AM
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You know, my system didn't come with an SCA filter because I did some real research, different from the OP, who is no longer on board because we can't come to "his" consensus, doesn't actually understand sh_t about the chemistry of coolant and why his quoted "Internet Post" (aren't we all on the internet?) isn't taken for gospel.

not that someone with 15 posts on FTE is the messiah that we should all follow over the cliff or anything like that

oops, forgot to add that not only have I unsubscribed, but my little p_ss ant, lacking of all knowledge, friend -- I can unsubscribe to everything from YOU. You don't know sh_t and you actually think you do, that's what is truly funny....
 
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Yahiko
Rusty like some of my popcorn? Fresh popped

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Thanks Sean, mm mm good (with coffee even)
 
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 08:48 AM
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Thanks Sean, mm mm good (with coffee even)
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 09:05 AM
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 06:48 PM
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WOW This Thread went from BAD to Worse, I would lean more towards Fact than fiction, and here on FTE I just don't see Fiction, but what I do see is the guys here trying to really help one another out You are old enough to make your own decisions , I would think that anything that Improves my trucks life span I'm all for it, Really this Thread was probably good Info to make sure Others will get the right filters Installed, so I have to Thank you for That, Good luck with your 6.0L.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2013 | 07:53 PM
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So true.....So true
 
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 12:27 AM
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I hope the OP comes back to drop some more knowledge on us, and soon.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 08:13 AM
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All I know is that I change my coolant every 50,000 miles with distilled water and fresh Ford Gold coolant.

Why - Ford initially said the coolant lasted 100,000 miles, which from day one I never trusted... so I cut that in half and went with 50,000 miles.

Then Ford changed they their service intervals to less mileage and to check one's coolant with their Ford test strips (guess their coolant couldn't go 100,000 miles like the marketing department wanted/claimed).

I installed a Dieselsite brand coolant at 50,000 miles and change the filter (non-charged filter) once a year.

I think the other key is that I ONLY use distilled water (20 gallons) to flush my system and refill... so some of what people see can also be hard water "mineral deposits"!!!

There is no substitute for fresh/clean fluids (got to use the proper fluid) in our motors and the coolant filter with the non-charged filter is just extra protection and really does work.

I now have 240,700 miles on my 2003 Excursion and still running the same EGR valve and EGR cooler... so something I am doing is working!!!

BTW - I also use a Magnafine inline filter on my PS fluid. The only fluid I do not filter is my window washer fluid.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 11:09 AM
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Just for the purpose of having it in this thread, here's a list of filters that fit most of the aftermarket set-up's. None of these are precharged (no SCA).

Fleetguard WF-2077
Baldwin B5134
John Deere RE11992
Caterpillar 9Y4528
Cummins 3300721
Wix 24070
NAPA 4070
NAPA 4069 (one inch shorter)
AC-Delco WF-108
Fram PR3383
Donaldson P554685
Alliance (Freightliner) WF2077
CarQuest 89070
Hasting WC8
Purolator W54451
 
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Old Dec 10, 2013 | 12:24 PM
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Beachbum, I'm sorry to hear your coolant filter has kept you from getting 100k miles out of your truck.

In all seriousness, if you change coolant yearly or every 50k miles, it likely does not master which coolant you use. This includes the green stuff. The green stuff is silicate based. Isn't the green stuff the same as Ford Gold but not as environmentally friendly?
 
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