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Old Mar 16, 2010 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BarnieTrk
WB 115 = 115" wheelbase; short box (SWB)
115" refers to the wheelbase only. This does not mean it's a short box pickup.

These trucks could be ordered as a Cab & Chassis. So, for examples: a utility bed, short flat or stake bed or who knows what kind of 'back of cab' equipment it might have.

I just noticed something else. You mixed up the assembly line and engine codes. I decoded this members VIN already in a V/M, but the VIN was missing a digit (7) from the serial number.

Now...he may be confused, because...

Originally Posted by BarnieTrk
Y is the assembly plant code: Wixom MI / D is the engine code: 352 2V.
F10YD....

1961/80: The 4th digit of the VIN is the engine code: Y (1966/67) = 352 2V / The 5th digit of the VIN is the assembly plant code: D = Dallas TX.

The D engine code was used for the 352 in 1965 F100/350's only. 1966/72: D = 330 2V H/D as installed in B/C/F/N/NT/T500 and larger trucks.

No truck was ever assembled in Wixom, MI. This plant originally assembled Lincoln's only. Then in 1958/63: Lincoln's & Thunderbird's only (they share some of the same structure).

1964/78: Lincoln. 1979/2009: LTD's (renamed Crown Vic in 1982), Mercury Grand Marquis and Lincoln Town Cars.

2010: The Grand Marquis and Town Car are history. Only the Crown Vic is still being made. But, since 2009, it's only being sold as a fleet vehicle (Taxi-Cab's/Police Cruisers).
 
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Old Mar 17, 2010 | 11:14 PM
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I hadn't heard about the Marq. & Town Car being retired. They definately are/were the last of a dying breed.
 
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Old Jun 12, 2010 | 04:18 PM
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another vin

Been reading lots of these and think I have most figured out: Info is from Warranty Tag on inside of glove box door.
F10C9K50500
F10 is F100 2wd, C=292 2v, 9=59, K=Kansas City and its 50500 off the line.

WB 110= 110" wheel base
COLOR D = Indian turquoise
?? F100--under date or color? guessing at fleetside or style side
DATE 22G = July 22
TRANS F = 4sp manual
AXLE O1 OR 01 ???????
MGVWR 5000 = max weight
HP=158 @400RPM = rated HP

All this said. what's the axle numbers mean (i'm sure its on one of the threads and i've missed it) and where are there numbers on the motor to verify if its the original or a replacement? all info is greatly appreciated.
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Old Jun 12, 2010 | 07:21 PM
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Welcome to FTE Walt!

(Someone who knows your answers will me along soon.)
 
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Old Jun 12, 2010 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by wthalacker
Been reading lots of these and think I have most figured out: Info is from Warranty Tag on inside of glove box door.
F10C9K50500
F10 is F100 2wd, C=292 2v, 9=59, K=Kansas City and its 50500 off the line.

WB 110= 110" wheel base
COLOR D = Indian turquoise
?? F100--under date or color? guessing at fleetside or style side
DATE 22G = July 22
TRANS F = 4sp manual
AXLE O1 OR 01 ???????
MGVWR 5000 = max weight
HP=158 @400RPM = rated HP

All this said. what's the axle numbers mean (i'm sure its on one of the threads and i've missed it) and where are there numbers on the motor to verify if its the original or a replacement? all info is greatly appreciated.
Walt
Walt,
FIRST OFF, WELCOME TO FTE!

Well, according to your profile here at FTE, you've got a 2000 model F150....so did you get another or a different & older truck?

According to your supplied Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) F10C9K50500, it appears you're tracking down a '64 F100. The consecutive build number (the last six digits) would indicate it was built in February, 1964.

There are no numbers on the engine that would confirm or deny that it was the first engine in your '64 F100. GM did that, but Ford did not do that.

F10C9K50500

F10 is F100 2wd,

Yep.

C=292, 2v

Yep.

9=59 *

* -- I don't know what this is...why it's there....or what it means. I don't believe there should be a numerical digit between the engine code and the assembly plant code letters in the VIN.

Assembly plant code = K = Kansas City, MO.

Yep.


Consecutive build date: 50500 = built in February, 1964 as a1964 model.


On the Warranty Data Plate (WDP), below the Warranty Number (the same as the VIN) on the second line there should be: W.B., COLOR, MODEL, BODY, TRANS, AXLE.

W.B. 110 = 110" wheel base

OK.

COLOR code: D = Indian turquoise

According to my information, in '64, turquoise would have been a B color code. I don't see a D color code for 1964 F100s.

MODEL: F100--under date or color? guessing at fleetside or style side

In 1964, what some folks call a "fender side" box, Ford called a Flare Side Pickup - type 83. Whereas, what some folks call a "smooth-sided" or "fleet side" box, Ford called it a 'Style side Pickup -type 99.

DATE 22G = July 22 ?*

* -- I don't see where there was a DATE stamp on the WDP? This is where the BODY code should be stamped.... it should look like, E81 or similarly marked.

TRANS F = 4sp manual

Yep. I'll buy that.

AXLE O1 OR 01 ???????

Yep. An 01 axle would have been a single speed, 3.50 gear, 2.3M# capacity (light duty) Ford 9" WCC-A axle.


Then on the last or bottom line there should be:
MAX G.V.W. LBS, CERT. NET HP, R.P.M., DSO,

MGVWR 5000 = max weight

Yep, 5,000 lbs was the MAX GVW Rating for the truck, passengers and cargo combined.


HP=158 @400RPM = rated HP

Yep, well sorta.....The RPM should be 4000.

-- Was there no DSO stamping?
This would indicate where the truck was ordered from. If it was ordered by a dealer in the Kansas City area, it would have District Sales Office (DSO) code 53.


Please go back and double check your WDP data.... or better yet, post a picture of it.

BarnieTrk
 
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Old Jun 12, 2010 | 10:04 PM
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A few things about the basic VIN setup...a typical 61-66 truck VIN will ALWAYS read like this...

letter two numbers two letters six numbers

letter= truck series(F,B,C,T,N,etc, etc)
2 numbers= denotes trucks series (F10= F100, F25= F250, etc.)
two letters...first denotes engine size(352,240, 300, etc)
second letter denotes assembly plant(R= San Jose, Ca, D= Dallas, L= Michigan truck, etc.)
last 6 denotes sequential production number OF THE PLANT IT WAS ASSEMBLED AT!!! so if theres 6 truck plants, there were 6 trucks where the last 6 read 000002. This also is how the build date is determined as the 61-6 trucks started out at 000001 in 1961 and ran thru 914,000 at the end of the 1966 model year run.


The other info given on the warranty plate is as follows:

Top row: warranty number, explained above...same as the VIN which is on RF topside frame rail 12-18" in front of the engine crossmember. Some California trucks had this number at the center of the engine crossmember.

Middle Row: left to right: wheelbase, color(exterior), model, Body, Trans, Axle

Bottom row, left to Right: Max GVW LBS., cert. Net H.P., RPM, D.S.O.(where the original selling dealer ordered the truck from...for example, most west coast trucks were assembled at the San Jose, Ca plant, but theres several DSO codes for the west coast trucks...74= Seattle, 71= L.A., etc...


Given what you have posted the VIN is positively not a 61-6 VIN number as you typed it. 1967 onward used a letter and then 5 numbers...beginning with A.

Ideally it would be st if possible to take a pic of your warranty plate located on the rear door face below the latch or inside of the glovebox door.




I, and a few others on here have the truck parts catalogs which decodes the warranty plates.




Welcome to FTE:-)

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Old Jun 13, 2010 | 08:46 AM
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another vin

I tried to do my homework first before posting. I'm pretty sure its a 1959. There isn't anything stamped under DSO unfortunately. I was trying to figure out the axle code (as far as the warranty plate) and where to find the stamp on the block for engine ID. This is from the glove box and isn't real clear once re-sized.



 
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Old Jun 13, 2010 | 08:49 AM
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another vin

just a note. I added an album on the site that has 2 more photos and its named "Daughter's 1959 Project". link is below.

Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums - wthalacker's Album: Daughter's 1959 Project.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2010 | 09:52 AM
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I've managed to get into the wrong thread.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2010 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by wthalacker
I tried to do my homework first before posting. I'm pretty sure its a 1959. There isn't anything stamped under DSO unfortunately.

I was trying to figure out the axle code (as far as the warranty plate) and where to find the stamp on the block for engine ID.


It's kinda hard to make this fuzzy pic out, especially since my eyes are 65 years old.

The 5th digit of the VIN is the year. It looks like a 0 = 1960, but if it's a 9 = 1959.

The AXLE code appears to be 01: Ford 9" / 3.70-1 / non Limited Slip / 3,300 lb. Rear Axle Capacity.

The DSO code has nothing to do with what year it is. It decodes to the specific Ford District Sales Office that the original selling dealer ordered the truck from.

Very few 1960 and older trucks have a DSO code. Some 1961/62 trucks have one, all 1963 and thru today trucks have it.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 08:58 PM
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65 f100 data please!

Hi guys,

Please decode another vin/data plate! 1965 F100 I'm getting from my neighbor. Thanks again you guys are so helpful!

 
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 09:36 PM
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F10= F series 1/2 ton truck
D= 352 V8
K= Kansas City assy. plant
588711 = Sept. 1964 build date, 1965 model year

129= wheelbase in inches long bed truck
M= Wimboldon white exterior paint
F100= model..self explanatory..
Body = D81= D= Lt beige crush vinyl and medium beige ladder pattern woven plastic
81= 81B= conventional cab truck, Custom Cab trim
Trans = A= 3 speed manual trans, column shift, Ford Lt duty
Axle = 08= 3.50 open rear end gear ratio
5000= trucks max GVW in pounds
172@4000 = engines cert. net h.p. at specified RPM
DSO = 65= Oklahoma City...where original selling dealer ordered the truck from



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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by camperspecial65
F10= F series 1/2 ton truck
D= 352 2V V8
K= Kansas City assy. plant
588711 = Sept. 1964 build date, 1965 model year
129= wheelbase in inches long bed truck
M= Wimbledon white exterior paint
F100= model..self explanatory..
Body = D81= D= Lt beige crush vinyl and medium beige ladder pattern woven plastic
81= 81B= conventional cab truck, Custom Cab trim
Trans A = Ford type 3.03 3 speed manual all syncromesh transmission.
Axle 08 = Ford 9" Rear Axle / 3.50-1 / non Limited Slip / 3,300 lb. Rear Axle Capacity.
5000 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.
172 @ 4000 = engines cert. net h.p. at specified RPM
DSO = 65= Oklahoma City...where original selling dealer ordered the truck from.
Does the wheelbase decode to a long bed truck? No, it does not.

All it decodes to is the wheelbase since it could also be a Cab & Chassis, Flatbed or Stakebed.

F100 = F100 2WD / 5,000 lbs. GVWR.
 
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Old Aug 12, 2010 | 09:29 PM
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Can someone help me with this Vin Number frm a 1966 F250 Camper Special F25(y or x) r804202 The last digits I know our production numbers does anyone know how many of these F250's were made that year and can you tell what day or month this one was made on? Thanks is there also a way to find the original paint and equipment installed on the truck?
 
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Old Aug 12, 2010 | 09:51 PM
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F25= F series 3/4 ton 2WD truck
Y= 352 c.i. V8 engine
R= San Jose, Ca assy plant...
804202= Jan 1966 build date, 1966 model year truck

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