underground on a daily basis. no one was trash talking, they just said we look alike and i've never seen you

 

all depends on what your plans are for the truck. just driving around, on the small tires, the thing will whine like Kris after he races me. on the larger tires, it'll be ok. for offroad, and 44's, it won't have much nuts down low. WIth the small tires, it'll be great with a set of 35-36's.

 

i've got 38's now and the 3.55's are fine for dd with the 5spd. i still don't use 4lo offroad unless i'm pulling someone out of a hole. i might go to a c-6 and i don't trailer my vehicle so i need to be drivable at 60 mph. i don't like revving my motor, i try to stay on the low side of 4000rpm's, but the rev limiter kills it at 5500 i believe. that's part of why i want a c-6. it blows to shift in the mud.

 

i just ordered the dana 44 4.56 gears lol...i knew they looked a bit oversized...im mean theyre like 2 of my 8.8s gears LOL even the pinion is much bigger

wtf is the notched cross pin for again? my cross pin has a broken retaining bolt in it so yeah i gotta find one...thats okay...its small itl come fast and cheap...kinda like pauls mom

YIKES! my 3.55 and 35s suck for DD, well its actually great round town, less shifting, but the hiway miles...holly **** LOL thats ghey

 

Thick Gear, there's a carrier split in a 44. 3.90 and lower, 4.09 and up. a thick gear would let you keep your stock 3.55 low carrier to save you money

 

well thats fine for the dana 44...but i thought my 8.8 was supposed to come that way too...i must have read it wrong or something...is it 3.73 and up for the carrier split on the 8.8? just curious

wait i think i remember now...the cross pin is notched for clearance over the driver side axle shaft? because the carrier moves left with the new gears? am i right or am i too drunk to be trying to remember these things...good thing im not actually trying to do this right now...thats would be catastrophic

 

i don't believe 8.8's have a split, but i could be wrong. did you get thick gears for the front or no? cause if you go 4.56's you need a new carrier if they're not thick gears.

 

Dana 44 gears, buy the pic it looks like you need a carrier.

Ford 8.8 gears, they are thick because there is no carrier split in a 8.8. Also, see how thick they are? The notched cross pin is so you can get the C clips in so you axles don't fall out. With 4.56s you put your lockright in, than your notched crosspin, than you bolt on your ringgear, than jam it in the housing. You use a screw driver to turn the cross pin to the one side, put the c clip on, than the other side, than to the middle to get the little bolt in to keep it from movin.

 

pretty sure its around 3.73 for the 8.8 cause apparently i need the notched X pin

the thick gear is for the dana 44...the thin one is for the 8.8 .. thats why i need the notched pin for the 8.8 and NOT the dana 44...i looked at some other gears for the ford 8.8 and it said (some 3.73 and up require notched cross pin)

called today i can have my master shim kits (both axles) and notched X pin for the 8.8 tomorrow noon hopefully for about $80 all together...itd be like $130 off of summit plush shipping...yes the gears i got off summit were half what i would have payed from this place???


if the the notched cross pin is required for installation because of the C-clips you would never need one anyway for the dana 44, they do not have C-clips....

 

I'm telling you, the really thick gear IS for the 8.8, that reason being, the lower the gears, the smaller the pinion, the thicker the ring gear. More so being the 8.8 doent have a carrior split. The reason you need a notched cross pin for the 8.8 and not the D44, is because of the C clips. The D44 gears are thinner than the 8.8 gears because of the carrier split. If I had more time right now, I would go take the Diff cover off my 8.8, ansd take a picture, just to prove to you that those really thick gears are for the 8.8.

 

Here, I found some pics of the 3.50s I took out of my 94, the ring gear on the left is a D44, and on the right is a 8.8. Now, with the D44 carrier split, the ring gear won't change a lot in thickness, but for the 8.8, it will get thicker. So, how would it be possable that the 8.8 gears are thinner than the D44 gears? The 8.8 gears look bigger/more beef than the D44.




So once again,

D44 gears


Ford 8.8 gears.

 

And you only need the notched pin if you go 4.56 or numerically higher for the 8.8 The reason is bacause the ring gear becomes so thick it is inpossible to slide the pin into the carrier with the gear on. So you have to put in a notched pin into the carrier before you bolt up the ring gear on the 8.8 carrier with 4.56's on up.

Just my little tidbit on knowledge for ya!

 

****...i seem to have confused myself now...i dont know how the hell i mixed the two up...i swore they came out of the boxes how i described them but the parts numbers agree with you lol...damn...

okay...so since the carrier split is 3.73 and up on the d44 id need a different carrier UNLESS my ring gear is thicker then the original to make up the difference correct...which it should be cause it did not say i needed any other parts...

and the notched cross pin for the 8.8 is for clearance with the C-clips and massive ring gear...the massive ring gear is to keep the carrier centered with the C-clips on the axle...

there is no carrier split in an 8.8 because the gears have to get thicker regardless because of the C-clips...so the carrier is not affected

does that sound better? ha it makes sense now that the thick one is for the 8.8...somedays i make me wonder...

oh BTW got my notched cross pin (the notches are no where near as deep as they appeared on summit, but they take 1 pic for 1000 different parts so....ya) and master shim kit ofr the 8.8 today so im gonna get the 8.8 done sunday...the shim kit for the dana 44 was lost in a snowstorm they think so it might not be here till monday or tuesday...so thats when ill have to do the dana 44...just have to make damn sure the hubs are out hahaha if i have to drive anywhere

 

correct for the most part. just to be a smart@$$, the case split on a d44 is 3.92 and down, and 4.09 and up. so yes since you didn't buy a "thick" gear set, you will need a new carrier. jeff's bronco grave yard sells them for cheap.
http://broncograveyard.com/bronco/i-...3-93-5-38.html

 

because you are a tard??


I can tell you by your pic, you don't have the thick set. post up the part number and where you got it from and we'll see. The other question is, since you don't know what you ordered, did you even order a RS set for a ford front, or is it a standard rotation set for everything else?


close enough, at least you got the gist of it. As for the notch, it really doesn't need to be that much, just enough to slide the c-clips in. Of course you could have fixed all of that with a set of c-clip eliminators which uses a pressed on bearing like a 9".....