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Old 06-02-2017, 07:41 AM
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Know why they made the V10? So when you start blowing spark plugs you have a bunch of them so some of them are bound to get you home.
 
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I've had 3 PSD and I will NEVER own another one again. I currently run a V-10 in my service truck and the fuel economy still hasn't been as expensive as the repairs on the diesels.
To each their own, but you couldn't pay me enough to run another Ford diesel.
 
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Old 10-30-2017, 02:23 PM
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I've had 3 PSD and I will NEVER own another one again. I currently run a V-10 in my service truck and the fuel economy still hasn't been as expensive as the repairs on the diesels.
To each their own, but you couldn't pay me enough to run another Ford diesel.
Curious on which diesel motors you have owned. Just for better clarity on the issue. I love my V10 too but just for full disclosure, curious on your diesels.
 
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Old 10-30-2017, 06:27 PM
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what you guys think will pull more weight a 7.3ps or a v10? say their both 410 geared and automatics
 
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Old 10-30-2017, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Skip1970
what you guys think will pull more weight a 7.3ps or a v10? say their both 410 geared and automatics
That's kind of a subjective question. Both will pull just about anything you hook to them. In 4-low a V10 would handily pull a loaded semi truck up a hill. So would an F150 with the base engine, for that matter.

Traction is the limit in most cases, not power.
 
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Originally Posted by Skip1970
what you guys think will pull more weight a 7.3ps or a v10? say their both 410 geared and automatics

according to the tow charts the 6.8 can pull more, by about 700lbs

BUT....you have to understand what is happening....the tow charts are based on tire ratings and the reason the 6.8 tows more is because it weightes less than a diesel.
 
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Old 10-30-2017, 09:19 PM
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For sure the psd would pull more weight, thats just a silly question.



 
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Originally Posted by MDSuperDuty
Curious on which diesel motors you have owned. Just for better clarity on the issue. I love my V10 too but just for full disclosure, curious on your diesels.
I had two 7.3's (one with the 5 speed manual and one with the 6 speed manual) and I still have a 6.0 (with the automatic) and it's up for sale and no one wants it.
I can see where this is going though. "the newer diesels are so much better!" lol
My response/question to that response is why should I keep wasting my money on Ford diesels and hoping they get it right with the newer versions?
The 6.4's and the 6.7's are starting to show their issues having to buy DEF just don't interest me. Not to mention how many times I have seen a truck come thru with "reduced performance" because the CAT is plugged up. Wait? Isn't that what the DEF is supposed to prevent? HAHA
Not to mention that the V-10 has pulled everything I want it to and I don't have to spend $160 at every oil change. I can do the V-10 for $50.
And for these people that only have diesels so they can "Roll Coal". I'll just keep quiet on that one but Utah just passed a law last year that if your diesel "Rolls Coal" and you're not hauling anything (except a**), you're getting a ticket.
I know you guys love your diesels and I'm all for that, so you should be happy to know that I won't be buying the next one that you want.
 
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Old 10-31-2017, 10:01 AM
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I had two 7.3's (one with the 5 speed manual and one with the 6 speed manual) and I still have a 6.0 (with the automatic) and it's up for sale and no one wants it.
It depends on the specs and how much you're asking. I guessing too much like many others I see out there. If the price is right, someone will buy it.

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The 6.4's and the 6.7's are starting to show their issues having to buy DEF just don't interest me. Not to mention how many times I have seen a truck come thru with "reduced performance" because the CAT is plugged up. Wait? Isn't that what the DEF is supposed to prevent? HAHA
Not to mention that the V-10 has pulled everything I want it to and I don't have to spend $160 at every oil change. I can do the V-10 for $50.
You've got it all wrong. The DEF fluid is to reduce NOx emissions in the SCR and has nothing to do with the soot filter (also called a Diesel Particulate Filter, aka DPF). It also doesn't use much DEF fluid (like maybe $10 every 2000 miles?). You've also got the oil change claims wrong. On my 6.7L, oil changes only costs me $65 every 5000 miles for full synthetic because I do them myself. I could use the dino sauce the older diesels used for even more savings (down to $35) but I opt for the synthetic.

Lastly, it's not Ford's fault that the EPA required them to plug up the exhaust, they're just doing what's required of them to comply with the law. This is the same thing that happened with the EGR tube getting plugged on the 6.0L diesels.

These problems (and failure of the EPA to find real solutions to emissions rather than crippling automobiles) is why people rip that garbage off and let the engine breathe.
 

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Old 10-31-2017, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by dajain
I had two 7.3's (one with the 5 speed manual and one with the 6 speed manual) and I still have a 6.0 (with the automatic) and it's up for sale and no one wants it.
I can see where this is going though. "the newer diesels are so much better!" lol
My response/question to that response is why should I keep wasting my money on Ford diesels and hoping they get it right with the newer versions?
The 6.4's and the 6.7's are starting to show their issues having to buy DEF just don't interest me. Not to mention how many times I have seen a truck come thru with "reduced performance" because the CAT is plugged up. Wait? Isn't that what the DEF is supposed to prevent? HAHA
Not to mention that the V-10 has pulled everything I want it to and I don't have to spend $160 at every oil change. I can do the V-10 for $50.
And for these people that only have diesels so they can "Roll Coal". I'll just keep quiet on that one but Utah just passed a law last year that if your diesel "Rolls Coal" and you're not hauling anything (except a**), you're getting a ticket.
I know you guys love your diesels and I'm all for that, so you should be happy to know that I won't be buying the next one that you want.

Eh, I was just really curious.

I drive a V-10 and love it and will be looking for a 450/550 V10 next year for my business. I found one recently but this year is not the year to be buying one for me which stinks as this would be a perfect fit. I like the simplicity of it myself.
 
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Old 10-31-2017, 11:15 AM
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The other day I was pulling my fiver down the highway, came up on this gasser not pulling anything up this hill, barely making it, so as soon as I got around him I used the draft from my camper to suck him the rest of the way up the hill.
 
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Old 10-31-2017, 12:00 PM
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The other day I was pulling my fiver down the highway, came up on this gasser not pulling anything up this hill, barely making it, so as soon as I got around him I used the draft from my camper to suck him the rest of the way up the hill.
That’s because you couldn’t see me behind your camper in my 6.2 shoving you on up that hill.

That Chevy gasser we passed don’t count.
 
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Old 10-31-2017, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SDElwood
The other day I was pulling my fiver down the highway, came up on this gasser not pulling anything up this hill, barely making it, so as soon as I got around him I used the draft from my camper to suck him the rest of the way up the hill.
Just wait, the Gasser guys are going to complain because you helped them now! Haha!
 
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Old 10-31-2017, 12:22 PM
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Well, after my owning and daily driving my 7.3 for about 3 years now (was previously my dad's who took very good care of it) I am beginning to halfway look for a decent gasser. Why? I don't need the diesel and in all honesty, the 7.3 does not tow that good compared to other modern diesels and some gassers (blasphemy right?). Now I will say that the 7.3 tows very well once in overdrive and will lug up a hill with just about any load that I've towed behind it. But getting up to speed takes quite a while compared to other trucks out there. 7.3s are extremely reliable, but they are dogs, tuned or not. Just my opinion.
 
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Old 10-31-2017, 01:39 PM
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The 3v V10 is a beast and did a great job for 286k+ miles I owned mine before selling it and replacing it with a '16' 6.7 which is another beast of an engine. If Ford would of had the 3v V10 in a new F350 I would of bought another gasser instead of the diesel.
 


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