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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 09:58 PM
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yep that's the one out on 82 or MLK east of town

I never thought they would work but they kept the isles cool
I haven't been there in a number of years but they use to have them
 
Old Oct 19, 2008 | 10:01 PM
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Well, I'm off to the rack. Gotta get up for WORK tomorrow. Dang, first day back...
 
Old Oct 19, 2008 | 10:16 PM
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I've seen people who are better shooters at a distance than close range. Sorta strange.
I almost forgot... you can bring your muzzleloader to Iowa's shotgun season or muzzleloader season and use it as is. In Iowa a muzzleloader is anything you stuff the bullet in from the front, no restrictions on inline ignition, type of projectile used ( as long as its not High explosive), and any sight that does not project a beam is fair game, that means rifle scopes, red dots, holosights, Trijicon reflex sights, whatever trips your trigger. Or you can carry it just as you have it legal for Colorado. Handguns .40 cal and over are legal in shotgun season as well. The lower 2 tiers of counties do have a late season doe only rifle hunt....and party hunting is legal in Iowa.
 
Old Oct 19, 2008 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by rbaker6336
One of the first anyway,think Oliver Hart-parr was in '35 IH had the 6 cyl WD40 in '34
I didn't know that.
 
Old Oct 19, 2008 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by willeo6709
I almost forgot... you can bring your muzzleloader to Iowa's shotgun season or muzzleloader season and use it as is. In Iowa a muzzleloader is anything you stuff the bullet in from the front, no restrictions on inline ignition, type of projectile used ( as long as its not High explosive), and any sight that does not project a beam is fair game, that means rifle scopes, red dots, holosights, Trijicon reflex sights, whatever trips your trigger. Or you can carry it just as you have it legal for Colorado. Handguns .40 cal and over are legal in shotgun season as well. The lower 2 tiers of counties do have a late season doe only rifle hunt....and party hunting is legal in Iowa.

Wow, well I'm sure we'll get used to it quickly. We'll still hunt here in Colorado, and in NE, and Iowa also. Maybe the three of us can hook up and go for a hunt and you can show us the ropes. Randy wants to do a bunch more hunting. I do too...I like to go and I'd prefer to eat deer over beef.

My Winchester .50 cal has the mounts for a scope. I just might have to do that.
 
Old Oct 19, 2008 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Smokin'
Socket..well hard to explain, but on a three prong socket, they are supposed to be put in a certain way..i have a few that were installed upside down. Maybe if Jim sees this he can explain better. I'll have to hire an electrician to come in here and fix a few issues, no bones about it. Oh also I guess I have a few breakers that are "too big" for what they are being used for..
You have some electric wall plugs that are upside down or something with actual light sockets somewhere? Upside down wall sockets/plugs are pretty easy to fix -- turn off the circuit, remove cover, unscrew the plug from the box and flip it around. There should be enough slack in the wires to get it turned the right way. If it's something with an actual light socket though, I'm not sure what you have.

Breakers that are too big -- I believe they are saying the breaker would allow more amperage through the wires before it tripped than what the wires are rated for. Letting too much current through the wire could cause it to overheat and cause a fire. Very similar to not putting too big of a fuse in your truck because the wires are too small to handle more of a load.
 
Old Oct 19, 2008 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jtharvey
You have some electric wall plugs that are upside down or something with actual light sockets somewhere? Upside down wall sockets/plugs are pretty easy to fix -- turn off the circuit, remove cover, unscrew the plug from the box and flip it around. There should be enough slack in the wires to get it turned the right way. If it's something with an actual light socket though, I'm not sure what you have.

Breakers that are too big -- I believe they are saying the breaker would allow more amperage through the wires before it tripped than what the wires are rated for. Letting too much current through the wire could cause it to overheat and cause a fire. Very similar to not putting too big of a fuse in your truck because the wires are too small to handle more of a load.
Sorry...I am brain dead today. Long day. Yes, electric wall plugs is what I am talking about. Yes, all of the stuff they are asking for is fairly simple, but if I am going to hire an electrician I might as well have him run through the house. I'm not much of an electrician ( I suck at it). If Randy were here he could probably take care of a lot of this stuff. I'd rather just have someone who knows what they are doing take care of it.

The stuff they are asking for is understandable. The people who are trying to buy the house seem pretty level. The inspector went a little overboard in my opinion, but the buyers don't seem to be paying any attention to all of the padding he added to his review of the house.

In other news..I am going through a box of pictures and stuff that was at my dad's house. Some really old stuff in there, like journals from when I was a little girl (highlighting the various crushes I had on misc boys), lots of old pictures. Found a picture of my grandpa in his Marine uniform..and pictures of my parents when they dated in high school, including one of my mom in a skimpy yellow bikini. Funny to see your parents like that. I found a COLOR picture of my dad's '55 Chevy and old Harley...I had seen B&W versions but had no idea there was a color one out there its kinda cool. Pictures of old pets I had nearly forgotten about, nostalgic.
 
Old Oct 19, 2008 | 11:27 PM
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If you're not comfortable with the electrical work, definitely have a qualified person do it. That's not something to play around with.

I know what you mean about the pics though. I was going through some old pics at my grandmas house a few years ago and found some pics of my mom when she was in her 20's. Amazing to see what she looked like back then.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2008 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Smokin'
but on a three prong socket, they are supposed to be put in a certain way..i have a few that were installed upside down.
I'd be REAL interested in what they thought were correct.

A trip to any hospital here in SoCal would show you that the ground pin is at the top. Now, you'd think that would be correct, right?

Maybe it is, but 99.9 percent of the homes and businesses in SoCal are wired for the ground pin to be down, and is how I orient them every time I replace one. See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEMA_connector

Most grounded "wall-warts" have the text right-side-up with the ground pin down.

Jim, what's the NEC say? Or is it even specified?

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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 12:25 AM
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just looking at an appliance plug the ground is on the bottom,wouldn't think they were meant to go up then down
The IEEE standard 602-1996, section 4.2.2 advises that hospital-grade outlets be used and that they should be mounted with the ground pin or neutral blade up to assure that any metal that may drop between the plug and the wall will most likely contact an unenergized blade.
But
 
Old Oct 20, 2008 | 12:35 AM
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So what they're saying is that ground down is the North America standard, except when in hospitals?

Only in America....

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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 01:08 AM
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I'm studying this right now and from what I've read so far (and what I've picked up from my dad who's a master electrician) its mostly the electricians preference. It seems that the gound pin up supports the plug better from falling out and is less likely to bend it if the cord is stepped on. Don't quote me on it though, cause I may be wrong.
 
Old Oct 20, 2008 | 01:14 AM
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Hey guys,

One of our members in San Diego had his wife's truck stolen. Here's a link to the thread. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...ml#post6666372
 
Old Oct 20, 2008 | 01:47 AM
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So what they're saying is that ground down is the North America standard, except when in hospitals?

Only in America....

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I done a search ,one city had a ordinance where ground went up and this from an electricion in Va
I am a Master Electrician in Virginia, and have been since the late 1980s. The NEC does not dictate whether the ground should be on the top or the bottom, and it never has, for a very good reason: it makes no difference from a safety standpoint. None. It's an urban myth that one way is safer than the other, and just like any other urban myth you'll find people steadfastly claiming it is so, but you won't find any verifiable evidence for it.
Now, as a practical matter, the vast majority of manufacturers assume that the ground is on the bottom. For this reason, I install receptacles with the ground plug on the bottom. But that's a matter of preference and convenience, NOT safety.

Got a friend down the street that is a master electrician will try to ask tomorrow
Maybe it varies by state??
 
Old Oct 20, 2008 | 02:27 AM
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In my house the outlets that are wired to the switch are put in with the ground up. When we first moved in I had no idea why one outlet in each room was "upside down", figured the guy was half in the bag when he installed them. LOL. Took me about 2 months to figure out why the "upside down" ones were that way. I had never seen it done that way until this house. My dad is also an electrician, has been since the late 70's, he said that here in Az as far as he knows the code doesn't say one way or the other is the right way.
 



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