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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 10:34 PM
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YES I have made it into a sig quote! Yup, its weird but so true. It must be the sound of the electric motors make, I still haven't figured it out!
 
Old Oct 20, 2008 | 10:49 PM
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Nick thats quite the funny story! Road rage stories always are kinda funny!

What was your dad doing while this guy was trying to pull your sticker off??

Neat sticker too
He was laughing his @$$ off ready to call the Police if it went any further
 
Old Oct 20, 2008 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by deereman4020
I used spray paint on the powerstroke cover.Take the cover off of the truck first. I spray painted the letters first, let dry, covered the letters with electrical tape,(painters tape would work better) cut around the letters with an exacto, and painted everything else. If you'd like me to paint it send me a PM.

No doubt you'd do a much better job than I would. I might take you up on that...and plus I'd have a cover painted by Jacob!

You know what would be cool too..some of that camoclad stuff over the entire cover, with the letters cut out and painted a color or whatever..Not sure if it would stay on or not though.
 
Old Oct 20, 2008 | 11:14 PM
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YouTube - Led Zeppelin - Lost Performances (4/5) Howdy all, Any Led Zepplin fans gotta see this, enjoy. This is killer..
 
Old Oct 20, 2008 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by willeo6709
The sabot discards within about 5 yards outside the muzzle... but the plastic serves to not load the rifling grooves, the same as the copper does not build up nearly as fast a a solid lead projectile in , say a 22 long rifle. The lead projo's build up much faster than the copper jacketed in most cases.
Are you saying sabots actually move faster than a copper jacketed bullet?
 
Old Oct 20, 2008 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Smokin'
Are you saying sabots actually move faster than a copper jacketed bullet?
no, just that the copper is less sticky and builds up less. The coefficient of friction I assume to be about equal, so the same powder charge would move the same weight prjectiles to an equal velocity. However, sabots allow a lighter projectile to be used, which can accelerate to a higher velocity which flattens trajectory and makes range estimation less critical. I believe there was a 30-06 sabot round with about a 90 grain projectile that ran close to 3900 fps ( recalling from memory ) unfortunately the round was unstable and not overly accurate due to the twist rate being for a much heavier bullet. in general fast twist = heavy and slow twist = light...but twist rates are one of the most argued in firearms.

Most slug guns run a 1 in 28 or a 1 in 34 twist....depending on manufacturer. I prefer faster twists, but thats getting OT. a slug traveling 1350 feet per second making a revolution once in 28 inches is spinning 34,714 RPM... that kinda centrifigal force will throw the sabot as soon as its not contained ( I think Lightfield does have a non discading sabot that travels completely downrange. ). A 5.56 x 45 ( .223 reminton) in a 1 in 7 twist barrel travling at 2800 feet per second is spinning at 288,000 rpm.
 
Old Oct 21, 2008 | 12:11 AM
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Eh, eww. No thanks. I stopped that one right there and made it very clear to him that it wasn't going to happen. After that I was charged full price for stuff and I preferred it that way. You know its like those women who knowingly accept free drinks from the ugly drunk guy at the bar. You KNOW he's going to try to take you home. Men sometimes think that if they spend a few dollars on you they automatically get a ticket into your pants.

I bet you don't have any problems Chris. I believe that one.
I have a frien who always plays "Mr. nice guy" for girls, he drives them anywhere they want and will pay for anything for them just because he wants to ..uhh..um..yea you get the picture. lol it hasnt worked out that well for him. He will actually make his friends pay him for gas if we need a ride to the same place hes going too though..


Originally Posted by 87 F-150 I6
Whenever I see a prius drive by I always hear a very fant "I'm gay", its so weird
That is the funniest thing Ive heard in a while
Id have to agree thought, I dont like those little things

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YouTube - Led Zeppelin - Lost Performances (4/5) Howdy all, Any Led Zepplin fans gotta see this, enjoy. This is killer..
Im a fan but dont have sound son this computer
 
Old Oct 21, 2008 | 01:10 AM
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Question Diesel # 2 is for warmer weather and Diesel # 1 is for colder weather right. Its has nothing to do with Quality Right?
 
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 01:30 AM
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I belive they are the same one of them is just not taxed (off road/heating fuel and is dyed red, I think#2 isnt taxed). IIRC the winter blend stuff is added into the tankers when the stuff ships outa the hubs.
 
Old Oct 21, 2008 | 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by weekendwarriorfsw32
Question Diesel # 2 is for warmer weather and Diesel # 1 is for colder weather right. Its has nothing to do with Quality Right?
I don't think that #1 is ULSD.....not sure though
 
Old Oct 21, 2008 | 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by willeo6709
The sabot discards within about 5 yards outside the muzzle... but the plastic serves to not load the rifling grooves, the same as the copper does not build up nearly as fast a a solid lead projectile in , say a 22 long rifle. The lead projo's build up much faster than the copper jacketed in most cases.
I was wondering about how the sabot was supposed to control expansion part? I guess I just misunderstood ya. You are right about the 30-06 bullets. They were called accelerator's, I think. Made by remington. I thought about getting some one time just to try them out. Never got around to it though.
 
Old Oct 21, 2008 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by willeo6709
no, just that the copper is less sticky and builds up less. The coefficient of friction I assume to be about equal, so the same powder charge would move the same weight prjectiles to an equal velocity. However, sabots allow a lighter projectile to be used, which can accelerate to a higher velocity which flattens trajectory and makes range estimation less critical. I believe there was a 30-06 sabot round with about a 90 grain projectile that ran close to 3900 fps ( recalling from memory ) unfortunately the round was unstable and not overly accurate due to the twist rate being for a much heavier bullet. in general fast twist = heavy and slow twist = light...but twist rates are one of the most argued in firearms.

Most slug guns run a 1 in 28 or a 1 in 34 twist....depending on manufacturer. I prefer faster twists, but thats getting OT. a slug traveling 1350 feet per second making a revolution once in 28 inches is spinning 34,714 RPM... that kinda centrifigal force will throw the sabot as soon as its not contained ( I think Lightfield does have a non discading sabot that travels completely downrange. ). A 5.56 x 45 ( .223 reminton) in a 1 in 7 twist barrel travling at 2800 feet per second is spinning at 288,000 rpm.
So you're saying that copper slugs are more accurate, not because they are faster, but it all has to do with the "twist" of the projectile as it exits the barrel? Curious, why can't they make a more accurate sabot that moves at the velocity 3900 fps round you mentioned? Would you need a barrel at a smaller caliber that is specifically engineered for the smaller projectile?

I have noticed, through experimentation, with my traditional rounds in my .50 Winchester, that more powder for a hotter round does indeed impact the reliability of the shot...negatively. Different powders also play a role. We tried that Jim Shockey shat and that stuff is crap. Stuck to 777 and a little less powder (I want to say 80 grains but I'd have to look at my measurer).

I hope I'm not annoying you with my questions. I find your answers interesting.
 
Old Oct 21, 2008 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 87 F-150 I6
Whenever I see a prius drive by I always hear a very fant "I'm gay", its so weird
Originally Posted by Smokin'
Wow weird I hear it too! LMFAO!!!!!
Originally Posted by weekendwarriorfsw32
So I am not the only one that hears that!
That is really funny that all of you hear your inner voice tell you that you are gay. How ironic is that? J/K

The prius drivers around here seem to be ok
 
Old Oct 21, 2008 | 08:11 AM
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copper is less sticky than lead- less bore fouling - I rate copper about even with plastic sabots. FWIW in 12 gauge shotguns, both fully rifled and 5 " rifled tubes ( in a browning BPS test weapon) I see virtually no difference in accuracy at 75 yards between fosters and sabot slugs, but a decided difference in point of impact. The point of impact is due to the reduced projo weight. Winchester has a real lightweight pistol bullet saboted in a 12 gauge thats a pretty high velocity, but shotgun actions are not rated for the bore pressure of a rifle action, it would blow the barrel apart ( compare wall thicknesses and locking lug sizes).

edited to add - I dislike solid copper slugs in a 12 gauge, my experience is they are great if you hit mass but don't expand well on double lung shots, give me a federal premium hourglass style, lightfield exp, or winchester bri slug over any of the solid copper stuff.
 
Old Oct 21, 2008 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by weekendwarriorfsw32
Question Diesel # 2 is for warmer weather and Diesel # 1 is for colder weather right. Its has nothing to do with Quality Right?
Unless it has changed over the past years #1 diesel is just a higher cetane number than #2 kind of a mid point between #2 and keresene and would be better for colder climates

It has nothing to do with quality
 



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