O/t!!!
Smokin
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copper is less sticky than lead- less bore fouling - I rate copper about even with plastic sabots. FWIW in 12 gauge shotguns, both fully rifled and 5 " rifled tubes ( in a browning BPS test weapon) I see virtually no difference in accuracy at 75 yards between fosters and sabot slugs, but a decided difference in point of impact. The point of impact is due to the reduced projo weight. Winchester has a real lightweight pistol bullet saboted in a 12 gauge thats a pretty high velocity, but shotgun actions are not rated for the bore pressure of a rifle action, it would blow the barrel apart ( compare wall thicknesses and locking lug sizes).
edited to add - I dislike solid copper slugs in a 12 gauge, my experience is they are great if you hit mass but don't expand well on double lung shots, give me a federal premium hourglass style, lightfield exp, or winchester bri slug over any of the solid copper stuff.
edited to add - I dislike solid copper slugs in a 12 gauge, my experience is they are great if you hit mass but don't expand well on double lung shots, give me a federal premium hourglass style, lightfield exp, or winchester bri slug over any of the solid copper stuff.
Randy reloads his own stuff and started experimenting with how grain variances impact the velocity/accuracy of his copper jacketed lead bullets. Thats about all I have to say about that, I'm not sure what he has learned from all of this. Usually when he talks about it all I hear is the teacher from Charlie Brown.
I do know that he was playing with some "hot" .44 mag rounds he did this summer and ended up bubbling the cylinder in his dirty harry. I thought he was going to cry when he did that. Now its just fuel in the fire for a S&W 500.
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From: Iowa
most guns will have a combo they " like best ", but harmonic vibration of the barrel, rate of twist, bullet construction, and weather all play a role. Some benchrest guys actually get **** enough to have all their reloading stuff in a trailer they pull to the range, load for that day, adjusting to a chronographed velocity so they know their bullet drop at ranges does not change. Bullets can be " over stabilized and under stabilized....if you spin it too fast or too slow it " stair steps" at extended ranges, its not a predictable curve, so yes, there is a lot to it.
Fleet Owner
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From: BLT, MN
Let me tell you, there was "frost on the ol' pumpkins" when I got off the motorcycle at work this morning. Temp was somewhere around 32-34 degrees. Brrrrrrrr. Had to finally break out the insulated gloves.
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You are more of a die hard than I am anymore. I used to ride almost until there was snow on the ground, but just don't like being that cold. Once it get's much below 60, you can pretty much count me out. In fact, my bike is already up on the stands, on a charger, and under cover. Of course, if a nice day rolls around, it would only take me about 5 minutes to have it ready to ride.
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J/K
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Well my "pumpkins" have plenty of frost out on the porch. It's been dipping into the 20's pretty regular here already, glad I got the sprinkler system winterized! I alllllmost FORGOT this year! 
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I will let you use your imagination on that one. hehe
Yep. I have been out there a few times. I know exactly the types.
That would not be a good thing at all. I like winter but glad it is not that cold yet. To much to do before winter sets in.
They are a little fuzzy
Yep. I have been out there a few times. I know exactly the types.
They are a little fuzzy
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From: Brinklow Md
You are more of a die hard than I am anymore. I used to ride almost until there was snow on the ground, but just don't like being that cold. Once it get's much below 60, you can pretty much count me out. In fact, my bike is already up on the stands, on a charger, and under cover. Of course, if a nice day rolls around, it would only take me about 5 minutes to have it ready to ride.