Whining Power Steering Fix!!!
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From: vernon hills IL
the late 80's and early 90's e- vans used a saginaw pump that actually looks almost identical to the gm style. ill try to take a picture of mine tonight. the bracket is different between the f series and e vans for this reason.
pedant
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From: EXTREME southwest CT
The black horseshoe adapter is to adapt and fit the Saginaw to the diecast later style bracket.
Cardone made them up this way but there is too little demand now.
Napa still lists the NSP 816795 online but I've been told by others on the forum they can't get it even though it's shown as available.
None of the factory installed Saginaws came with a horseshoe adapter.
The Saginaw came in two styles.
The oval reservoir that 86F150302 shows, and the "canned ham" style with a triangular metal body.
Why can't you just use the stamped steel bracket from a van with the same engine you have?
Cardone made them up this way but there is too little demand now.
Napa still lists the NSP 816795 online but I've been told by others on the forum they can't get it even though it's shown as available.
None of the factory installed Saginaws came with a horseshoe adapter.
The Saginaw came in two styles.
The oval reservoir that 86F150302 shows, and the "canned ham" style with a triangular metal body.
Why can't you just use the stamped steel bracket from a van with the same engine you have?
I just got off the phone with a shop that listed having a Saginaw pump off a 95 econoline with the same motor as me. They too said that the bracket it was attached to was a sheet metal piece to one side with two bolts similar to the one I found in the van at the pick and pull. Shouldn't these have the black horseshoe shaped bracket to fit the 3-bolt pattern in my truck? I'm very confused..
pedant
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From: EXTREME southwest CT
I just went to NAPA Online and searched the above number.
Select 'shop online' and then say 'no' to specific vehicle popup prompt windows.
It comes up at $92.49 w/ a $50 core.
You can see 4 views of the pump with standoff bracket.
It has the correct hose adapter already attached to the rear.
Store Locator | NAPA Online
Select 'shop online' and then say 'no' to specific vehicle popup prompt windows.
It comes up at $92.49 w/ a $50 core.
You can see 4 views of the pump with standoff bracket.
It has the correct hose adapter already attached to the rear.
Store Locator | NAPA Online
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Didin't know this. Does this mean that those of us with the cardone units can bolt the horseshoe on a regular GM pump if & when it craps out? I wonder about the shaft diameter as well.
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From: vernon hills IL
i didnt get a chance to last night , but when i am out messing with the truck ill snap a picture of mine
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I wonder if I try to order one from napa if they'll be able to fish one out of the warehouse somewhere.. seems like it's worth a shot.
pedant
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From: EXTREME southwest CT
I only had found a single e-van with my motor, and glancing at the pump it looked as if it was mounted in a totally different fashion than my pump mounts. I'll try to get over to a pick-n-pull today and if its not raining too hard i'll snap some shots to try to illustrate what I mean.
If anything I'd expect there's more than enough room in the truck to use the van style bracket.
If it changes the belt length you'd need would it really matter that much as long as the pulleys are in the same plane?
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Excellent. Last question (probably) - how did you 'extend' the return line?
Edit... Nevermind, didn't realize it was just a hose connection rather than a fitting like the pressure hose. Now I just need to chase down a bracket.
Edit... Nevermind, didn't realize it was just a hose connection rather than a fitting like the pressure hose. Now I just need to chase down a bracket.