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Hello again,I just was a e-mail this afternoon from Action Machine with a ups tracking # and a picture of my rear shafts. The front shaft(jack shaft) is a new 1610 yoke and tube with my slip yoke and new carrier bearing,it is 13 inches long u-joint center to the center of the carrier bearing. The rear shaft is my original.Rear joints are solid spicer 1350s.
I spent what probably totaled a few hours looking through parts books at companion flanges and flange yokes so I could end up with 1350 u-joints for all my connections. I am slowly buying the parts since a one time buy would be a budget breaker.
I spent what probably totaled a few hours looking through parts books at companion flanges and flange yokes so I could end up with 1350 u-joints for all my connections. I am slowly buying the parts since a one time buy would be a budget breaker.
I have building custom stuff for a long time,and the one constant through all of the builds are that most of the time the parts cost what they cost and the longer it takes to collect and piece together the more expensive it will be at the end.The best way that I ever heard it put was take ten grand and throw it in a fire and if you don't flinch your ready to go racing.
This truck will be used for towing my nostalgia wheelstander,so the only thing that I want to deal with going down the highway at 70 is not spilling my coffee and adjusting the radio.So my point is some times you just have bite the bullet and spend big to play big.
I've been looking for a 5sp manual & a 3sp brownie...
Originally Posted by elliott
Hi, I've looked into the RT 6610 & RT 6613 series behind a 460. I've come to the conclusion that 4 or 5 sp main and a Spicer 6041 4sp Aux would be more doable, all though a little harder to shift, than a single stick. (note, all my thoughts have been with regard to a E350 cutaway 5th wheel puller). Safty wise, I wouldn't want an aux behind a T Case without some type of inter lock, so you couldn't use it while in 4X4. Roadranger trans were used behind 370 and 429 engines in the early 80's. I didn't look into earlier years, because I have a 460. I have a Brownee 3 sp sitting in the yard. 2.00/1.00/.73 but have never used it, because I didn't like the ratio's. The Spicer 6041 has 2.14/1.24/1.00/.86 which is a much better spread for my use.
I have a 90 F-superduty w/a 460 in it. I looking for a 5sp manual w/OD and a 3sp brownie. Any suggestions on trans would be great, also do you still have that 3sp brownie?
Hello again,I finally have the shifter mounted,and yes that is a spicer shifter.I was going to use a Hurst,didn't work out.I found the shifter on ebay,rebuilt it and here it is.
I took out the bolts from the tailhousing of the t18 and replaced with 1/2 double ended studs then used nuts to secure the tailhousing.The bracket I then built is attached to the studs with another set of nuts.I started with a 1/4 inch plate using 3 studs and with making pattern the plate fits around the tailhousing.Then placed the shifter and built the mount to it.I just keep throwing steel at it until the shifter didn't move,now if you grab the stick and pull on it,it moves the whole drive train.
Chris
Hello,It is now on the road and working,I have to replace the input and output seals,they both now leak a bit.(should have done that before ,but I needed it out of my shop).Shifts nice,can't really float the stick to shift the aux,not enough rotating mass with the 460 flywheel the rpms drop very quick.So when you shift you must be smooth and quick.I also have to get a reduction for the speedo cable,but I am very happy with it.Now is a comfortable 70 mph truck.Most of the coal burners around here still don't get it.First Questions are how is it on gas/why not put a 12v cummins ect......I say"don't matter what the mileage is,it's paid for and I hate small diesels".
They always have the same look of anger and confusion.
Chris
I have a question about shifting the aux box, does the auxiliary sifter take more strength to shift than the main transmission?
Since my truck is a single cab and my transmission is a three speed, I'm thinking about using a column shift setup for the auxiliary. Floor space is at a premium in my old F-2.
Hello,thank you for the compliment.I always strive to make all of my installs as clean and nice as it would be if the factory had done it.As for shifting the the spicer it takes more effort to get the main(t18)trans out of 1st gear than shifting the spicer.It has a shorter throw than the t18 and,I did do a lot of welding,grinding,reshaping to get the aux shifter parts all back into into spec.
It actually takes a very minimal effort.
What main are you using and what size aux?I personally would not recommend a column shift for a great many number of reasons the least of witch would be overly complicated linkage.
Chris
I will be using a T-98 main and a 5831 aux. The 50-52 F-1 column shifter is actually a very nice setup if it isn't all worn out. I figure I would need to make a couple cross shafts to bring the linkage over to the middle of the auxiliary. Also I like the idea of confusing people with both a factory column shifter and a factory floor shifter.
I do see a overt problem with column shifting is the spicers have no syncos.And sometimes you will want to,have to,need to lean into the shifter to get to the next gear.Wouldn't that be awkward hand and arm motions.And just from driving mine the rpm drop when the clutch is depressed is great.My truck has a stout 460,but not the 200lb flywheel that was originally in front of the aux.But with the solid engineering column shifting is possible but I would build the shifter and all parts from scratch.
Chris
Just use the select part feature and select 5831 with the letter code you want.
A question of my own. Anyone ever hear of mounting these between a transfer case and a transmission? practiced my drawing skills dream 4x4 - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network
This appears to be drawn as a married setup. It appears that the tcase is the carrier bearing for the rear, and they would use a carrier for the front drive shaft. I understand a long wheel base would be desireable to avoid steep angles. Also, I know anything's possible with enough money, I'm just seeking real world experience.
Just use the select part feature and select 5831 with the letter code you want.
A question of my own. Anyone ever hear of mounting these between a transfer case and a transmission? practiced my drawing skills dream 4x4 - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network
This appears to be drawn as a married setup. It appears that the tcase is the carrier bearing for the rear, and they would use a carrier for the front drive shaft. I understand a long wheel base would be desireable to avoid steep angles. Also, I know anything's possible with enough money, I'm just seeking real world experience.
Thanks in advance.
It won't fit.The spicer by it self is 18/20 inches long by it self+shafts,slip yokes,u-joints you are about 36 inches+/-.Spicers are not married like mack compound boxes.The long wheel base is best not so much for the angles but the shear length of the drive train.
Also mounted in front of the transfer case you can run the risk of blowing the t-case up.
Chris
