Edge owners: Tuning thread
Truck configuration (year, cab, bed, drive, etc)
Octane used
Custom parameters
Avg. MPG (whether you believe it or not, some do buy these trying to squeeze some extra miles out of their trucks)
.... and of course anything else you might want to add.
Hope some take advantage of this, and post back when they tweak their tunes. I'll know if the idea went over like passing gas in church, if it drops off the radar with no responses
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p.s. Was the Edge Evolution already mounted in the pod when you opened the box? It just seemed weird that it came pre mounted...The module did give me the number of disclaimers when my turned my car on though for the first 5 times...
I like running the level 2, with the timing bumped up for my altitude (+2), plus when I run other than 87 octane (91 in Denver), I push it up to +4 on the timing, no detonation to date. Before the Evo I had a Gibson SISO catback. Since, I've added the Volant intake kit. The combo really has made this truck so much fun to drive. Since the Volant though, I get a vibration from the intake at around 2k that I'm trying to figure out. It's not as bad with the stock tune or level 1, but still there. MPG? Right now, I'm enjoying the performance too much, so it's suffering somewhat, still average 15mpg.
I discovered by accident that if you lower the WOT fuel setting you can reduce the noise/vibration...but it seemed to me that you also lower your performance some.
According to the manual the WOT fuel setting only effects WOT and not normal driving but I wonder if the fuel setting isn't scaled logarithmically (or something similar) based on the throttle body position...meaning at WOT you're giving the maximum additional fuel (as you've set it) but if you're at say 75% WOT you're getting a percentage of the WOT value. This type of scaling would make some sense to me since you don't feel a sudden spike/boost as you gradually increase the throttle to WOT. I’ve speculated enough here, can anyone confirm or deny this with any truth or facts?
Another question I have is regarding the timing setting. Prior to upgrading my Evolution I had a Fuel Octane setting (as the manual states) but the last couple updates have replaced that setting with a Timing setting. The fuel octane setting was easy to understand...just set it to match (or be a point or two higher) your fuel...but I just don’t understand how to properly set the timing setting. I have been unable to find an explanation of how this adjustment works on the Evolution to know what I’m really changing. For example, if I’m running 89 octane fuel on Level 3, what timing adjustment do I need to make? I believe I need to retard the timing, but how much?
Anyone have any insight on this adjustment?
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I discovered by accident that if you lower the WOT fuel setting you can reduce the noise/vibration...but it seemed to me that you also lower your performance some.
According to the manual the WOT fuel setting only effects WOT and not normal driving but I wonder if the fuel setting isn't scaled logarithmically (or something similar) based on the throttle body position...meaning at WOT you're giving the maximum additional fuel (as you've set it) but if you're at say 75% WOT you're getting a percentage of the WOT value. This type of scaling would make some sense to me since you don't feel a sudden spike/boost as you gradually increase the throttle to WOT. I’ve speculated enough here, can anyone confirm or deny this with any truth or facts?
Another question I have is regarding the timing setting. Prior to upgrading my Evolution I had a Fuel Octane setting (as the manual states) but the last couple updates have replaced that setting with a Timing setting. The fuel octane setting was easy to understand...just set it to match (or be a point or two higher) your fuel...but I just don’t understand how to properly set the timing setting. I have been unable to find an explanation of how this adjustment works on the Evolution to know what I’m really changing. For example, if I’m running 89 octane fuel on Level 3, what timing adjustment do I need to make? I believe I need to retard the timing, but how much?
Anyone have any insight on this adjustment?
As far as your question on the changes from an octane setting to the timing degrees, I've got some posts from Bill, ASEMechanic, that he was posting on another forum. He is the engineer at Edge who developed the tunes for the F150 Evo. Here's what he said regarding a question similar to yours:
Level 3 (basically 91 octane tune) running 93 = +1 deg.
Level 2 (basically 87 octane tune) running 93 = +3 deg.
Level 3 running 100/101 = +5 deg. (This is for the rich guys!) :bows:
These are ideal values at sea level. At altitude, you should be able to add another degree per 2500 ft.
5000 ft. = +2 deg.
Just so you know, I can run level 3, +3 deg at 4500 ft with 91 octane. 4 to 4.5 degrees gets me a nice rattle on heavy throttle tip-in (low RPM throttle stomp) but actually drives quite nicely on the highway giving me another +.25 to +.5 MPG at 70 MPH versus +3 degrees timing.
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As much as I hate to say it, all threads of this nature will just boil down to another indecisive thread with a bunch of inflated claims, and claims by those of us who have used the products and felt that we were cheated.
If there's two things that people will inflate claims on it's MPG and taxes.
Kinda like the 25 mpg claim I saw yesterday on this very forum with the use of a intake, exhaust, tuner, etc, etc.
I discovered by accident that if you lower the WOT fuel setting you can reduce the noise/vibration...but it seemed to me that you also lower your performance some.
According to the manual the WOT fuel setting only effects WOT and not normal driving but I wonder if the fuel setting isn't scaled logarithmically (or something similar) based on the throttle body position...meaning at WOT you're giving the maximum additional fuel (as you've set it) but if you're at say 75% WOT you're getting a percentage of the WOT value. This type of scaling would make some sense to me since you don't feel a sudden spike/boost as you gradually increase the throttle to WOT. I’ve speculated enough here, can anyone confirm or deny this with any truth or facts?
Another question I have is regarding the timing setting. Prior to upgrading my Evolution I had a Fuel Octane setting (as the manual states) but the last couple updates have replaced that setting with a Timing setting. The fuel octane setting was easy to understand...just set it to match (or be a point or two higher) your fuel...but I just don’t understand how to properly set the timing setting. I have been unable to find an explanation of how this adjustment works on the Evolution to know what I’m really changing. For example, if I’m running 89 octane fuel on Level 3, what timing adjustment do I need to make? I believe I need to retard the timing, but how much?
Anyone have any insight on this adjustment?
If the vibration for the intake is actually the tube resonating...this could be checked easily. Resonance is a function of stiffness and mass....you could change the mass of the tube and see if that makes a difference? Attach a weight to it somehow? Also, you could change the "stiffness" by securing the tube better somehow. Just a thought.
Then again I have a very heavy foot. I wish we had a F-150 so that we could play around with it at the shop this summer. We do competative truckpulling and sometimes travel far. I wouldnt mind being the chase truck and see what we could get out of one of the Edge Evo's as far as economy goes.
MosineeFX4 -- I'll double check to make sure everything is tight...Maybe I need to put a rubber grommet between the truck and AEM tube mount to help absorb some of the vibration.
89 octane
I am using the 2/Tow tune. I set the timing +1, and shift firmness +5 at all intervals.
Been running this two days now. Shifting is great now, might even bump it up some more. Very fast low end response with the timing too. One of my biggest complaints about these Edge units versus my Superchips experience...is the low end response. Although its only been two days, I am seeing ~.5mpg increase.






