Methanol/Water Injection
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Originally Posted by PSD 60L Fx4
Will 15's not work on the truck as it sits? Im sure someone makes an 8 lug, 15 inch wheel. The only compatibilty issue I can think of would be the enormous diameter of the brake rotors.
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Originally Posted by Choctaw Bob
The calipers and rotors are too big. It's 16s or bigger.
then a set of 31x16.50-15LT mickey thompson sportsman pro's
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Hey Bob....
That's the truck I saw out at that ford dealer in fort worth when I went out to the Powerstroke trailer IIRC...
They trailered it in straight from the drags in Houston I think...
the guys were DEAD from beiing up most of the night !
That's the truck I saw out at that ford dealer in fort worth when I went out to the Powerstroke trailer IIRC...
They trailered it in straight from the drags in Houston I think...
the guys were DEAD from beiing up most of the night !
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Originally Posted by jdadamsjr
Hey Bob....
That's the truck I saw out at that ford dealer in fort worth when I went out to the Powerstroke trailer IIRC...
They trailered it in straight from the drags in Houston I think...
the guys were DEAD from beiing up most of the night !
That's the truck I saw out at that ford dealer in fort worth when I went out to the Powerstroke trailer IIRC...
They trailered it in straight from the drags in Houston I think...
the guys were DEAD from beiing up most of the night !
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Bob, do you have any time schedule of when you plan to get your injection system operational?
So far, the count of water/meth users here is only 3. Counting you, 4. We need to open more people up to this idea (especially those who tow). I suppose I can be blamed for scaring everyone off when I blew my first motor on it
So far, the count of water/meth users here is only 3. Counting you, 4. We need to open more people up to this idea (especially those who tow). I suppose I can be blamed for scaring everyone off when I blew my first motor on it
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Originally Posted by Choctaw Bob
People have to be convinced that it won't damage their engine and that it is worth the effort and expense.
I should have some time to finish mine in a couple of weeks.
I should have some time to finish mine in a couple of weeks.
I got my 3rd and 4th water stages set up and functioning on my injection kit.
I have the first three stages set up on progressive boost switches (14, 20, 25 lbs) all with .010 nozzles. I have the 4th stage set up on a boost switch ( 25 lbs) in series with a WOT throttle switch (used a nitrous switch from a Nitrous Express Kit), with a .030 orfice nozzle
When the first 3 stages kicks on, the pressure on the gauge stays pretty much constant. When the 4th stage kicks on, however, the pressure drops from about 175 psi down to about 135. Im afraid this is going really reduce the flow. What can be done to help maintain the pressure, besides changing orfice size? An extra pressure regulator?
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Originally Posted by PSD 60L Fx4
Ok guys...need some advice.
I got my 3rd and 4th water stages set up and functioning on my injection kit.
I have the first three stages set up on progressive boost switches (14, 20, 25 lbs) all with .010 nozzles. I have the 4th stage set up on a boost switch ( 25 lbs) in series with a WOT throttle switch (used a nitrous switch from a Nitrous Express Kit), with a .030 orfice nozzle
When the first 3 stages kicks on, the pressure on the gauge stays pretty much constant. When the 4th stage kicks on, however, the pressure drops from about 175 psi down to about 135. Im afraid this is going really reduce the flow. What can be done to help maintain the pressure, besides changing orfice size? An extra pressure regulator?
I got my 3rd and 4th water stages set up and functioning on my injection kit.
I have the first three stages set up on progressive boost switches (14, 20, 25 lbs) all with .010 nozzles. I have the 4th stage set up on a boost switch ( 25 lbs) in series with a WOT throttle switch (used a nitrous switch from a Nitrous Express Kit), with a .030 orfice nozzle
When the first 3 stages kicks on, the pressure on the gauge stays pretty much constant. When the 4th stage kicks on, however, the pressure drops from about 175 psi down to about 135. Im afraid this is going really reduce the flow. What can be done to help maintain the pressure, besides changing orfice size? An extra pressure regulator?
Last edited by Choctaw Bob; Jul 20, 2004 at 11:21 PM.
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in a system w a .050 orifice and 150 psi, u will have problems.
if u have 4 nozzles, and 175psi, each nozzle at .030, u WILL have problems thats the equilalent of a single .170" nozzle!!!!
thats waaay to much water. u need to find 4 very small nozzles. like 4 .010" or 3 .010 and 1 .020. or just put one single nozzle in at .030-.035.
if u have pressure drop, u have waaaay too much flow.
if u have 4 nozzles, and 175psi, each nozzle at .030, u WILL have problems
thats the equilalent of a single .170" nozzle!!!!thats waaay to much water. u need to find 4 very small nozzles. like 4 .010" or 3 .010 and 1 .020. or just put one single nozzle in at .030-.035.
if u have pressure drop, u have waaaay too much flow.
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Originally Posted by bighoss550
in a system w a .050 orifice and 150 psi, u will have problems.
if u have 4 nozzles, and 175psi, each nozzle at .030, u WILL have problems thats the equilalent of a single .170" nozzle!!!!
thats waaay to much water. u need to find 4 very small nozzles. like 4 .010" or 3 .010 and 1 .020. or just put one single nozzle in at .030-.035.
if u have pressure drop, u have waaaay too much flow.
if u have 4 nozzles, and 175psi, each nozzle at .030, u WILL have problems
thats the equilalent of a single .170" nozzle!!!!thats waaay to much water. u need to find 4 very small nozzles. like 4 .010" or 3 .010 and 1 .020. or just put one single nozzle in at .030-.035.
if u have pressure drop, u have waaaay too much flow.
)The thing is, this isnt going back on the truck until I can save the money and time for the twin turbo. When that happens, theres gonna be ALOT of air passing through that motor, and Im going to need ALOT of water to maximize the performance and cooling from it. On my old system, I had (Im 99% sure because I lost them) two .015 orfices. At full throttle and full boost, with the regulator AS FAR DOWN AS IT WOULD GO, it was sucking up every drop. It probably could have utilized more (but god knows it didnt need it)
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Originally Posted by PSD 60L Fx4
Alright guys, thanks. Ill drop the 4th stage orfice to a .020 (Im really too lazy to order ANOTHER, but ill do it )
The thing is, this isnt going back on the truck until I can save the money and time for the twin turbo. When that happens, theres gonna be ALOT of air passing through that motor, and Im going to need ALOT of water to maximize the performance and cooling from it. On my old system, I had (Im 99% sure because I lost them) two .015 orfices. At full throttle and full boost, with the regulator AS FAR DOWN AS IT WOULD GO, it was sucking up every drop. It probably could have utilized more (but god knows it didnt need it)
)The thing is, this isnt going back on the truck until I can save the money and time for the twin turbo. When that happens, theres gonna be ALOT of air passing through that motor, and Im going to need ALOT of water to maximize the performance and cooling from it. On my old system, I had (Im 99% sure because I lost them) two .015 orfices. At full throttle and full boost, with the regulator AS FAR DOWN AS IT WOULD GO, it was sucking up every drop. It probably could have utilized more (but god knows it didnt need it)
if i knew where the intercooler was in the system, i could help more
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I'm In
Sorry to jump in so late on the thread, I have a 7.3 and have been looking into the injection setup. Great info in here. I am going to try to order a setup this coming week. I am running a scmt at 110 with 4" straight exhaust. Love the power but looking for some more and the lower egt's would just be icing. As soon as I have it in I will post the results.
Thanks for all the Info.
Nuke
P.S. Also have the tymar intake so should have plenty of air to mix with the water. I'm pumped about this whole water/meth injection idea.
Thanks for all the Info.
Nuke
P.S. Also have the tymar intake so should have plenty of air to mix with the water. I'm pumped about this whole water/meth injection idea.