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Old Jul 9, 2004 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by gonnasellit_temp
I know, a little off topic, but...... Has anyone tried water fogging in front of the intercooler on the 6.0 to provide additional cooling for the intake air or is the intercooler big enough on this engine the effect would be nil?
As Bob said, if you did that, the water would drip onto the pavement and as your rear wheels passed over it your traction would be destroyed. Check my gallery; there is a picture of the frame I am going to use as a C02 Intercooler sprayer, using some old paintball tanks. The rice cars use it pretty effectively; as the co2 is extremely cold and is similar to, in a physical fashion, the chemical cooling that the water/methanol injection causes.
Check this link out www.designengineering.com (Thanks JD) For premade kits. I might upgrade to one of their kits if I can milk a decent performance gain from my homemade kit. I believe nitrogen could be used in the system for a more drastic effect, however nitrogen bottles are pretty pricey. The only feasable ones i know of are the ones off of a paintball gun.
 
Old Jul 9, 2004 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by PSD 60L Fx4
As Bob said, if you did that, the water would drip onto the pavement and as your rear wheels passed over it your traction would be destroyed. Check my gallery; there is a picture of the frame I am going to use as a C02 Intercooler sprayer, using some old paintball tanks. The rice cars use it pretty effectively; as the co2 is extremely cold and is similar to, in a physical fashion, the chemical cooling that the water/methanol injection causes.
Check this link out www.designengineering.com (Thanks JD) For premade kits. I might upgrade to one of their kits if I can milk a decent performance gain from my homemade kit. I believe nitrogen could be used in the system for a more drastic effect, however nitrogen bottles are pretty pricey. The only feasable ones i know of are the ones off of a paintball gun.
Nice work. Where will you locate your air intake to keep the C02 out?
 
Old Jul 9, 2004 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by gonnasellit_temp
Nice work. Where will you locate your air intake to keep the C02 out?
As long as you are moving when you spray it, or dont stay sitting long, it wont be an issue. As it is now (since i have a stock intake) the intercooler is behind the point of intake in the grill, so i think it will be ok. I guess i will find out if it chokes the engine.
 
Old Jul 9, 2004 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by PSD 60L Fx4
As long as you are moving when you spray it, or dont stay sitting long, it wont be an issue. As it is now (since i have a stock intake) the intercooler is behind the point of intake in the grill, so i think it will be ok. I guess i will find out if it chokes the engine.
If all else fails, I will switch to a ram-air or cowl induction hood. I beleive either one would prevent the ingestion of the gas into the engine.

Bob or Kent, if either of you get back on tonight, I am on yahoo...i dont feel like going to sleep for a while.
 
Old Jul 10, 2004 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by PSD 60L Fx4
If all else fails, I will switch to a ram-air or cowl induction hood. I beleive either one would prevent the ingestion of the gas into the engine.

Bob or Kent, if either of you get back on tonight, I am on yahoo...i dont feel like going to sleep for a while.
sorry matt, the wife called me to bed....

im gettin this water setup finished today
 
Old Jul 10, 2004 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by PSD 60L Fx4
If all else fails, I will switch to a ram-air or cowl induction hood. I beleive either one would prevent the ingestion of the gas into the engine.

Bob or Kent, if either of you get back on tonight, I am on yahoo...i dont feel like going to sleep for a while.
Musta been something in the air last night.

I've pulled the tank and now am looking for how to pull the vent line.
 
Old Jul 10, 2004 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Choctaw Bob
Musta been something in the air last night.

I've pulled the tank and now am looking for how to pull the vent line.
what u guys talkin bout in those emails??

and my water works well i need to turn the switch down to 20 tho cuz it doest get to 25 much unloaded
 
Old Jul 10, 2004 | 05:22 PM
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what u guys talkin bout in those emails??

and my water works well i need to turn the switch down to 20 tho cuz it doest get to 25 much unloaded
Mine either but even empty up a steep hill....I've seen 35!

You on Yahoo?
 
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Old Jul 10, 2004 | 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Choctaw Bob
Mine either but even empty up a steep hill....I've seen 35!

You on Yahoo?
I NEED GAUGES! I bet mine was rounding 40 when she popped...

Sorry I havent been on Yahoo in a couple days. Ive been trying to spend time with Jen and get alot of other stuff done at the same time.
 
Old Jul 11, 2004 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by PSD 60L Fx4
I NEED GAUGES! I bet mine was rounding 40 when she popped...

Sorry I havent been on Yahoo in a couple days. Ive been trying to spend time with Jen and get alot of other stuff done at the same time.
You mean you would give us up to spend time with a GIRL?
 
Old Jul 11, 2004 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Choctaw Bob
You mean you would give us up to spend time with a GIRL?
WHO HAS A Girl
 
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 02:34 AM
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You mean you would give us up to spend time with a GIRL?
Fiancee...

Hey, sorry guys, I havent abandoned you She leaves for college in about a month and a half though, dont have alot of time. Im trying to offer her gas money if shell drive back and fourth... Its about an hour and 10 mins....
 
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 02:40 AM
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Anyone happen to know of a head gasket that will install with standard head bolts, that is stronger than stock? Plain copper gaskets require studs; which arent available for the next couple months. Not asking about something really really heavy duty, just something to prevent me from popping them if i slap the water back on...
 
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by PSD 60L Fx4
Anyone happen to know of a head gasket that will install with standard head bolts, that is stronger than stock? Plain copper gaskets require studs; which arent available for the next couple months. Not asking about something really really heavy duty, just something to prevent me from popping them if i slap the water back on...
copper gaskets dont REQOIRE studs, but they arent much good w/out o-rings in the block.

just run straight water or 20-30% andu wont need any fancy stuff.

i plan on towing those big loads w/ just my water and a predator in the 65hp mode
 
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by bighoss550
copper gaskets dont REQOIRE studs, but they arent much good w/out o-rings in the block.

just run straight water or 20-30% andu wont need any fancy stuff.

i plan on towing those big loads w/ just my water and a predator in the 65hp mode
You might ought to try the 40 HP predator setting first. With a 35k trailer, you need to monitor your transmission. That is one crazy load for that thing to handle.
 



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