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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 09:17 PM
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Oh yeah...and I always take gloves and tools and for the trip a small step ladder. I ain't the tallest guy in town @ 5'8.5".

The FX4 with camper pkg is bit taller than most stockers. There is no way I'd ever lift it w/o an escalator.
 
Old Jun 21, 2004 | 09:17 PM
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Thanks for the info I'll try to get to Motorhaven tomorrow then. Predator it is.

When I am sure nothing bad happened to the beast while @ Prestige I'll program it in.
Thanks for shopping at MotorHaven
 
Old Jun 21, 2004 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by PSD 60L Fx4
I think im gonna use the WOT switch in conjunction with a handheld momentary switch for the 4th stage as bob described. Will one designed for nitrous be ok? ....
Any switch is OK as long as you use relays.

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around, my cab is gonna look like the cockpit on a Boeing 777. ....
You will have to get used to looking at gages quickly like a fighter pilot!

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fuel pressure gauge ....
You want to make sure that the fuel pressure gage is not mechanical and doesn't bring fuel inside the cab because of the fire danger.
 
Old Jun 21, 2004 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by kw5413
Oh yeah...and I always take gloves and tools and for the trip a small step ladder. I ain't the tallest guy in town @ 5'8.5".

The FX4 with camper pkg is bit taller than most stockers. There is no way I'd ever lift it w/o an escalator.
You're an inch taller than I am! I had to climb on the bumper and put both knees on the radiator shroud. I had a beach towell or that would have hurt a lot!
 
Old Jun 21, 2004 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SBV45
I was running in 65HP mode and pulling my boat (2500 lbs maybe) and my son was driving. It was hot Saturday coming back from the Gulf Coast. He punched it to pass some slow goers. I wish I would have had gauges. That is coming real soon. But, that truck will get up and go, even pulling a trailer.
Steve, The new hose I ordered from Rockwall Ford is the one that blew off. I think the slight oily residue is making it come loose, that and the 7 pounds of extra boost over stock. I plan on using some oil resistant silicone gasket sealer to stick it on after I rough it up with sand paper. I'm afraid to clamp it any tighter because the rubber is really soft and the clamp will cut through it.
 
Old Jun 21, 2004 | 09:28 PM
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Could you chuck the intake in a lathe and cut some groves in it, give the hose something to bite onto.
 
Old Jun 21, 2004 | 09:28 PM
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Is the oily residue coming from crancase ventilation? Any way of preventing that?
 
Old Jun 21, 2004 | 09:37 PM
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Could you chuck the intake in a lathe and cut some groves in it, give the hose something to bite onto.
Thr turbo outlet is where the hose keeps blowing off.

Do you have a boost gage?
 
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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 09:45 PM
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Is the oily residue coming from crancase ventilation? Any way of preventing that?
There is always a little oily residue in the intake trac of every engine, both gas and diesel. It is normal and comes from reversion waves set up during valve overlap periods when both valves are open momentairly. This is at the end of the exhaust stroke and beginning of the intake stroke where cylinder pressure is greater than the zero manifold pressure (this would be vacume on most engines)
A little oil from the cylinder gets into the intake trac. This is normal and is noted normal in the 6.0 Bible.
 
Old Jun 21, 2004 | 10:08 PM
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You want to make sure that the fuel pressure gage is not mechanical and doesn't bring fuel inside the cab because of the fire danger.
It has a sending unit that installs on the line directly; it is electrical. I would not like the idea of fuel in the cab either; having the methanol pump in my console made me a little nervous at first, until i realized the mix is not really flammable.

Off this subject, do you know of a way to measure the air/fuel mixture on a diesel motor, since it has no O2 sensors? Im pretty sure i need to monitor it when running nitrous, and i would like to install a nitrous shutoff if the fuel leans out for whatever reason. I know this is easily done on a OBDII compliant gas engine with sensors, but how do I do it on these beasts?
 
Old Jun 21, 2004 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Choctaw Bob
There is always a little oily residue in the intake trac of every engine, both gas and diesel. It is normal and comes from reversion waves set up during valve overlap periods when both valves are open momentairly. This is at the end of the exhaust stroke and beginning of the intake stroke where cylinder pressure is greater than the zero manifold pressure (this would be vacume on most engines)
A little oil from the cylinder gets into the intake trac. This is normal and is noted normal in the 6.0 Bible.
How does this still occur when the intake side is pressurized by the turbocharger?
 
Old Jun 21, 2004 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim Lamkin
Can we get pictures of these, or the very least get to eyes on the part, so we can know what the differences are.
Sombody ahs got to have one in their area, I checked and we do not.
I have one they gave me last month to replace the one that was split. They seem to have slightly more fabric under the surface of the hose and are slightly stiffer. Color appears to be nearly the same.

I think my problem is the turbo outlet is slick and has a very small raised band at the end, too small to retain the hose and clamp. I plan on taking some course emory cloth to it to knurl it and make it rough enough that the hose and clamp will get some "bite".
 
Old Jun 21, 2004 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by PSD 60L Fx4
How does this still occur when the intake side is pressurized by the turbocharger?
It's not pressurized when the throttle is closed and the engine is coasting. If it had a throttle plate in the throttle body, it might actually pull some vacume.
 
Old Jun 21, 2004 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by PSD 60L Fx4
It has a sending unit that installs on the line directly; it is electrical. I would not like the idea of fuel in the cab either; having the methanol pump in my console made me a little nervous at first, until i realized the mix is not really flammable.

Off this subject, do you know of a way to measure the air/fuel mixture on a diesel motor, since it has no O2 sensors? Im pretty sure i need to monitor it when running nitrous, and i would like to install a nitrous shutoff if the fuel leans out for whatever reason. I know this is easily done on a OBDII compliant gas engine with sensors, but how do I do it on these beasts?
Ask your hot rod diesel guy. You probably can get some O2 sensors that would work and a way to display it.
 
Old Jun 21, 2004 | 10:29 PM
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Aha! I found the answer to my own question, if anyone would like to know. You can install 02 sensors on a diesel just like a gas engine. The stoichometric ratio difference between gas and diesel is within 1/10 of the same; therefore (according to RSR, http://www.rbracing-rsr.com/rsrgauge.htm) the 02 sensors from a gas engine should work just fine. I will call this company tomorrow to confirm this; it will mucho simplify this issue.

I just need to set the nitrous cutoff with a little bit of leeway, since it will be off a small amount. It should work fine as a saftey device, however. And yes, Bob, I will call Ken E. to confirm it with him also. I suppose a lean fuel mixture with nitrous is not something to fool around with; I would be willing to bet you would know. Have you ever had one lean out on you?
 



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