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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 10:19 AM
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When they charge you the milage it is the actual miles that was on the truck went it first went in for repairs. I bought my truck with 350 miles on it because it was a dealer trade and it first went in with 987 miles on it now I got 11000 on it. So Im gonna have to pay the miles on 637 miles.

Choctaw as far as what you said if Ford doesnt want this stuff out why wouldnt they fix my truck I heard about a expedtion getting bought back because of spots on the hood and this is what my sales manager told me. I deal with the public all day with my job do you actually think Im not gonna tell people about my hearing and the way ford has handled this situtation. For you to sit there and say she has never heard a person win a lemon law I find that impossible to believe why do we have lemon law attorneys and why do we have lemon laws...
 
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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 11:29 AM
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When they charge you the milage it is the actual miles that was on the truck went it first went in for repairs. I bought my truck with 350 miles on it because it was a dealer trade and it first went in with 987 miles on it now I got 11000 on it. So Im gonna have to pay the miles on 637 miles.

Choctaw as far as what you said if Ford doesnt want this stuff out why wouldnt they fix my truck I heard about a expedtion getting bought back because of spots on the hood and this is what my sales manager told me. I deal with the public all day with my job do you actually think Im not gonna tell people about my hearing and the way ford has handled this situtation. For you to sit there and say she has never heard a person win a lemon law I find that impossible to believe why do we have lemon law attorneys and why do we have lemon laws...
First thing, I am on your side.

Lemon Laws are handled by the State Government. Are you in Texas? I am just repeating what my wife told me. She works in the district office of the Texas Department of Transportation where the Lemon Law hearings are held. Lawyers specalize in the Lemon Law because someone pays them. That would be you, if you go that route. I don't recall anyone on this forum being successful with the Lemon Law. If you are interested, go to any State web page and read the proceedure you must go through to qualify for a Lemon Law hearing. It is very difficult.

Right now, the DSB seems to be working. If I had a problem with my truck, that is the route I would go.

I think I remember that your lawyer sent a demand letter to Ford. Is that right? What angle is he working? We all are interested in the results you achieve because it sets a precident we can all follow. If he is a Lemon Law attorney and that is the route he is going, it is much different than suing in State or Federal Court. The proceedures are different. There are steps you have to go through to satisfy the Judge.

What I was talking about when I mentioned the Discovery Process, In State or Federal Court, your lawyer can petition the court to require Ford to supply the court with the statistics related to your case. Statistics such as; how many PSDs sold, how many failures, how many problems like yours, how frequent PSDs are brought back to the dealership for repairs, how many DSBs, how many trucks bought back.

Once these statistics are entered into the public record, anyone can make a Freedom of Information Act request and get these statistics. Thes statistics might improve the chances for all of us to sue Ford. That is why, to my knowledge, Ford has made every effort to keep these stats out of the public record. They have done this by using the DSB to buy back the defective trucks and repairing others.

Naturally, my statements about ford are speculation. No one but Ford execs know exactly what their thinking is. If I am wrong about any of this, I would welcome any other comments.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 01:36 PM
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As far as I know Lemon Laws are different in every state but I could be wrong.Im gonna put in here a quote from the Ca lemon law
The Lemon Law commands that if a vehicle manufacturer or its authorized dealer(s) cannot properly repair a “material defect” in your vehicle while it is under warranty after “a reasonable number of attempts,” the manufacturer must either promptly replace your new vehicle or refund your money, at your choice. The Lemon Law applies to all vehicles (including trucks and recreational vehicles) purchased or leased in the State of California and under the manufacturer’s new vehicle warranty
What constitutes “a reasonable number of attempts” at repair is a question of fact that can only be answered on a case by case basis. However, as a guideline, the Lemon Law states that if within 18 months or 18,000 miles of use, whichever occurs first, either the same material defect has been subject to repair four or more times, or the vehicle has been in the shop by reason of repairs for material defects for a cumulative total of more than 30 calendar days, then the vehicle is “presumed” to be a lemon. In addition, for vehicles purchased or leased after January 1, 2001, if the vehicle is repaired two times for a defect is likely to result in serious bodily injury or death, the vehicle is “presumed” to be a lemon.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by First Ford 2004
As far as I know Lemon Laws are different in every state but I could be wrong.Im gonna put in here a quote from the Ca lemon law
The Lemon Law commands that if a vehicle manufacturer or its authorized dealer(s) cannot properly repair a “material defect” in your vehicle while it is under warranty after “a reasonable number of attempts,” the manufacturer must either promptly replace your new vehicle or refund your money, at your choice. The Lemon Law applies to all vehicles (including trucks and recreational vehicles) purchased or leased in the State of California and under the manufacturer’s new vehicle warranty
What constitutes “a reasonable number of attempts” at repair is a question of fact that can only be answered on a case by case basis. However, as a guideline, the Lemon Law states that if within 18 months or 18,000 miles of use, whichever occurs first, either the same material defect has been subject to repair four or more times, or the vehicle has been in the shop by reason of repairs for material defects for a cumulative total of more than 30 calendar days, then the vehicle is “presumed” to be a lemon. In addition, for vehicles purchased or leased after January 1, 2001, if the vehicle is repaired two times for a defect is likely to result in serious bodily injury or death, the vehicle is “presumed” to be a lemon.
Texas is similar except that you have to prove that you attempted to have it fixed at two different dealers. The number of repair attempts and miles are different also. The process is just not very consumer friendly here.
I wish you nothing but the best in this. Good luck.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 02:20 PM
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Thanks Choctaw sorry if I came off wrong
 
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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 02:24 PM
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Thanks Choctaw sorry if I came off wrong
Don't sweat it! If I was in your shoes I'd probably go postal!
 
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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 02:28 PM
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Yea I already am UPS driver not far behind ha hahaha
 
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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 02:46 PM
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Yea I already am UPS driver not far behind ha hahaha
That is funny Ha!Ha!Ha!
 
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