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Old May 31, 2004 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SBV45
That's exactly what I am talking about. But then I am looking for some good books on the PCM, FICM and TCMs. Anybody know where I can get a book that gives you the logic, etc. ?
I'll be in Austin Tomorrow. If we can hook up, lets have lunch! Try my cell repeatedly until I answer. Parts of the job are underground and some are extreemely noisy.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by cdtruckn
Me and my service manger. 20 trucks 3hrs 12 with leaks.
My truck had has 2 R/M seals go out in the first 6 moths
I don't appreciate your attack on me.
And you determined that these were truly oil leaks from RMS? How? Was there oil on the ground from each of these leaks? Or, could it be the notorious hanging drip from the excess assembly lube we all have?

I have had two rear main seals replaced. It doesn't leak now. Replacing a rear main seal is no big deal on one of these trucks. I had my truck back same day both times. No big inconvenience.

You are making things sound worse than they are. I got better things to do than crawl around on my hands and knees for 3 hours. I could whine about all kinds of percieved issues about my truck, but I prefer to enjoy the better aspects of it.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 12:54 PM
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Why would it matter what date it is?
Probably does not make a difference but I'm just hinky about giving it out at this point.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Choctaw Bob
Sorry Jeb, this is nothing but conjecture.

The general impression on this forum (conjecture also) and others is that a handfull of people (same ones, over and over)are having serious problems and Ford is fixing or replacing them ALL.
Not. There are folks driving around in trucks that are not running right but can't get a buy back, either. There's one guy here or at dieselstop that has never gotten better than 12's for mileage but the truck otherwise runs good. So he can't even get a DSB started since there's no demostrable problems with his motor, for example.

After I read the rest of the posts in this thread, it looks like you work for Ford. Is that correct, Bob?
 
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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 01:52 PM
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Not. There are folks driving around in trucks that are not running right but can't get a buy back, either. There's one guy here or at dieselstop that has never gotten better than 12's for mileage but the truck otherwise runs good. So he can't even get a DSB started since there's no demostrable problems with his motor, for example.

After I read the rest of the posts in this thread, it looks like you work for Ford. Is that correct, Bob?
NO.....NONE OF US WORK FOR FORD
 
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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 02:41 PM
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Bob's statement:

We have hundreds of truck owners come through here every day...My dealer Sells 200+ PSDs per month,
just had me wondering.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jeb
Not. There are folks driving around in trucks that are not running right but can't get a buy back, either. There's one guy here or at dieselstop that has never gotten better than 12's for mileage but the truck otherwise runs good. So he can't even get a DSB started since there's no demostrable problems with his motor, for example.

After I read the rest of the posts in this thread, it looks like you work for Ford. Is that correct, Bob?
Is that the guy who has the 12" lift kit and 37" tires? And wonders why he only gets 12? Besides there are so many factors that enter into mileage. You can go to the dealer and they now have a new WDS program that will more accurately calculate mileage as you drive. I had it done on mine. 17.8 on the highway isn't bad. I don't have a gripe.

No I don't work for Ford either.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SBV45
I formed a mental image of a guy crawling around on all fours looking under all the trucks on the lot The dealer I go to must have an acre of trucks. So does the oil leak checker wear knee pads?

LOL....

They may call the dog catcher or the cops if someone was crawling around on the ground by all of there SD / PSD's. As for the RM leaking again it has been several weeks know and it is still leaking and i don't think it is oil left in the BH or around the starter. Actually i just got up and went out and climb undernieth the truck and it is leaking. The bottom of the BH is completely covered and the Tranny's filter pan is covered.

I dont hate these trucks. I will own another 6.0 as soon as i get this one taken care of. Dont get me wrong it is disheartning with all these issue's but it happens sometimes. You deal with them and life goes on.

I will keep you guys posted, if you would like, on how my DSB goes. It is here in 2 or 3 weeks, i think.

Jeb,

Would you mind to let me know how it goes for you? Not trying to be nosy. Just wondering what to expect.

Thanks,
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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 04:09 PM
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I, for one, currently have only one issue with my '04 F-250 S-cab FX4 6.0 build 10/03 3,600 miles... I'm not happy with the A/C performance and will have it @ Prestige Ford - Garland, TX in the next couple of weeks.

No leaks, no romp, no bad turbo, no nottin'... I keep looking and I keep listening for something to go wrong but it just ain't happening. I'm knocking on wood as we speak.

And I LOVE my truck.

And Again, I thank all of you for the tremendous amounut of information that as a new diesel owner I could never have the time to research.

I gotta tell you though, you guys pull the trigger to quick. You all speak of perceptions but none of you seem to precieve the meaning.

Joe Blow's perception is the world HE lives in. Not yours. If his leak and his experience with his dealer makes half the trucks in the world bad then that's the way it is in his world.

I also feel strongly that as a Ford truck buyer (91, 93, 95, 97, 2000, 2002, 2004) it implies that I have been making wrong decisions all these years. But, don't nuke the guy. Help educate. Ignorance is nothing more than the lack of knowledge.

Knowlegde creates beliefs which in turn creates perceptions.

Give people a chance before you de-humanize them. And after all this hate and discontent that's what I percieve is happening. That's my story and I'm stick'n to it.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jeb
Not. There are folks driving around in trucks that are not running right but can't get a buy back, either. There's one guy here or at dieselstop that has never gotten better than 12's for mileage but the truck otherwise runs good. So he can't even get a DSB started since there's no demostrable problems with his motor, for example.

After I read the rest of the posts in this thread, it looks like you work for Ford. Is that correct, Bob?
I could be vague about things like you are Jeb. But I don't have anything to hide. I work for myself. I guess that is where I learned to take responsibility for what happens in my life. If your "friend" can't get his truck fixed, he is not trying hard enough.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 05:06 PM
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I, for one, currently have only one issue with my '04 F-250 S-cab FX4 6.0 build 10/03 3,600 miles... I'm not happy with the A/C performance and will have it @ Prestige Ford - Garland, TX in the next couple of weeks.

No leaks, no romp, no bad turbo, no nottin'... I keep looking and I keep listening for something to go wrong but it just ain't happening. I'm knocking on wood as we speak.

And I LOVE my truck.

And Again, I thank all of you for the tremendous amounut of information that as a new diesel owner I could never have the time to research.

I gotta tell you though, you guys pull the trigger to quick. You all speak of perceptions but none of you seem to precieve the meaning.

Joe Blow's perception is the world HE lives in. Not yours. If his leak and his experience with his dealer makes half the trucks in the world bad then that's the way it is in his world.

I also feel strongly that as a Ford truck buyer (91, 93, 95, 97, 2000, 2002, 2004) it implies that I have been making wrong decisions all these years. But, don't nuke the guy. Help educate. Ignorance is nothing more than the lack of knowledge.

Knowlegde creates beliefs which in turn creates perceptions.

Give people a chance before you de-humanize them. And after all this hate and discontent that's what I percieve is happening. That's my story and I'm stick'n to it.
Sorry you feel that way. I don't want to de-humanize anyone. I just try to be frank with people. If they have a problem, we all try to provide an answer.
The people we have a problem with are those who in venting their anger, make up facts and figures and present them to prove that all our trucks are bad. They would like to punish Ford and the rest of us (because we don't share in their misery)by driving the new buyers away and driving the value of our trucks down. As long as they don't twist the facts and keep to the truth, I'm O. K. with that. If they attack the truck with false facts, why would we be happy with that? Also some are Chevy and Dodge trolls just trying to start a flame war.

by the way, there is a service bulletin on insulation interfering with A/C function.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by powerstrokedieselboy
LOL....

They may call the dog catcher or the cops if someone was crawling around on the ground by all of there SD / PSD's. As for the RM leaking again it has been several weeks know and it is still leaking and i don't think it is oil left in the BH or around the starter. Actually i just got up and went out and climb undernieth the truck and it is leaking. The bottom of the BH is completely covered and the Tranny's filter pan is covered.

I dont hate these trucks. I will own another 6.0 as soon as i get this one taken care of. Dont get me wrong it is disheartning with all these issue's but it happens sometimes. You deal with them and life goes on.

I will keep you guys posted, if you would like, on how my DSB goes. It is here in 2 or 3 weeks, i think.

Jeb,

Would you mind to let me know how it goes for you? Not trying to be nosy. Just wondering what to expect.

Thanks,
PSDboy
We are all hope you are successful with your DSB. Let us know how it goes.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 05:13 PM
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Sorry you feel that way. I don't want to de-humanize anyone. I just try to be frank with people. If they have a problem, we all try to provide an answer.
The people we have a problem with are those who in venting their anger, make up facts and figures and present them to prove that all our trucks are bad. They would like to punish Ford and the rest of us (because we don't share in their misery)by driving the new buyers away and driving the value of our trucks down. As long as they don't twist the facts and keep to the truth, I'm O. K. with that. If they attack the truck with false facts, why would we be happy with that? Also some are Chevy and Dodge trolls just trying to start a flame war.

by the way, there is a service bulletin on insulation interfering with A/C function.

Well written and truthfull!
 
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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 05:23 PM
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Bob's statement:



just had me wondering.
Talking about this forum. Most that are on this forum have problems. Once they are fixed or replaced, they are gone, never to be heard from again.

Did your friend go the DSB route? He is entitled to a hearing. There is always the State and the lemon law. There is also the option of hiring an Attorney. You see what I mean? This is why I say that we don't know of a single case that has not been resolved. Every one that I investigated, had been too busy or lazy to pursue resolution. The poor mileage cases turned out to be people who were griping about mileage but had never actually calculated their mileage. They just "felt" it was bad because the truck tank held so much more than their Acura.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 06:15 PM
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... I'm not happy with the A/C performance and will have it @ Prestige Ford - Garland, TX in the next couple of weeks.
Here is a service message:

2004 F-Series/Excursion Lack of A/C Cooling:
Trucks built between 12-1-03 to 1-26-04 may have strands of insulation trapped between the compressor and refrigerant line manifold. The system will need to be recovered and the the insulation removed from the joint. The tube and manifold assembly (4C3Z-19D850-CA) may be reused if it is undamaged, but the o-rings (1F1Z-19E889-AB) should be replaced. Broadcast Message 1118.

and ......

Programming update for 2003/04 6.0 PowerStroke: As of 8-8-03 there has been a new calibration for the 6.0 PowerStroke. This calibration was not installed in trucks built before 8-18-03. This update is supposed to address rough idle/surge/smoke at light throttle application, improved A/C performance at idle, minor manual transmission lauch performance, smoother downshift in tow/haul at 20 MPH, improved performance at low altitude/high barometric pressures and diagnostic updates. It also includes all previous calibration updates/fixes. Broadcast Message 0763/SSM 17048
The scan tool update implemented on 8-22-03 will cause a fatal exception error in the scan tool if model year 2004 is selected. Until a fix is released, select 2003 for 2004 models. Currently the calibrations are identical. Broadcast message 0798.

Good luck, I have an early 03 and it will frost you. I am in Central Texas so it is getting hot already.
 
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