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Old Jan 4, 2025 | 07:32 PM
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If it helps, here's a top shot of one of mine. And I bought mine in the Fort Walton Beach, FL store on 1/2/2025.


 
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Old Jan 4, 2025 | 07:54 PM
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Forest Gump: "Walmart EverStarts are like a box of chocolates...never know what you're going to get"

Couldn't help myself. EverStarts are a decent battery but it seems a bit troubling if there are multiple possible manufacturers. And different specs too. 750cca vs 775cca. Like everything else from box stores, they seem to buy from the lowest bidder and slap their decals on it.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2025 | 07:55 PM
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They're AGM but nothing on the terminals? No corrosion preventive gobagoo solution? A man that changes his rear diff cover.... would of thought an extra dose of preventive medicine on the terminals would of been done. 😆
 
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Old Jan 4, 2025 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by stryder
Forest Gump: "Walmart EverStarts are like a box of chocolates...never know what you're going to get"

Couldn't help myself. EverStarts are a decent battery but it seems a bit troubling if there are multiple possible manufacturers. And different specs too. 750cca vs 775cca. Like everything else from box stores, they seem to buy from the lowest bidder and slap their decals on it.
"If" you trust the warranty... the chocolate can still be sweet.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2025 | 08:02 PM
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Thank you very much Bob for taking these photos.

As you can already see, your photos have garnered a great deal of interest from fellow members who have just recently purchased Walmart Everstart Platinum AGM Group 65 batteries that are entirely different than yours.

To sort this out further, we know that you had your batteries delivered. Can you please post the Walmart Item #, as well as a UPC (both would be helpful) from your receipt?

Since this is a different battery, there must be a different item number, and must be a different UPC number. If we can collect the same information for all three types of these Walmart AGM Platinum batteries in Group 65, that would be helpful in figuring out which battery is made by which manufacturer. The goal here is to determine which Walmart battery one should seek to buy, where merely the description of Platinum AGM Group 65 is obviously now inadequate to distinguish between the three different versions that Walmart offers.

@chadstickpoindexter If you wouldn't mind also posting the Walmart Item # as well as the UPC number of the 750 CCA 4 year over strap top Platinum AGM's that you recently purchased, that will make 66% of our sought for data complete. Can you please also state if you purchased online or locally in store?

@longhaultransport Can you also do the same?

I will commit to trying to track down the third version, with the 5 year (3/2 free/prorata) warranty, to see if I can scare up a UPC number and an Item number.

Back to @HorizontalHunter

I'm sorry, I prepared the additional requests embedded in copies of your photos a couple of hours ago, but then got hung up on another forum matter, and then had to build a new album for batteries because my Electrical album was too full, so that took a bit of time, and now it is after dark. But here are my additional photo requests, some of which you may have already anticipated and provided with your second set, but like I said, I had already prepared this set below before you posted your second set. Still, there are some photos yet to be taken, that are requested below. Thank you!





Interestingly enough I think that we ought the same battery. Maybe it is a regional issue with me in the Northeast. I can’t seem to find any specific Walmart UPC other than what I found here






the embossing that you reference in the arrow is where the case is stamped made in Korea.



This is every marking I could find on the top of the battery:





The bottom was interesting so I took a picture of that as well


 

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Old Jan 4, 2025 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by stryder
Forest Gump: "Walmart EverStarts are like a box of chocolates...never know what you're going to get"

Couldn't help myself. EverStarts are a decent battery but it seems a bit troubling if there are multiple possible manufacturers. And different specs too. 750cca vs 775cca. Like everything else from box stores, they seem to buy from the lowest bidder and slap their decals on it.
I believe that Interstate does as well now. Unfortunately, that seems to be the business model these days.

I was always an huge Interstate fan and bought all my batteries there at their nearby distribution hub. In this case their batteries have the same specs, cost $75 more each, and only have a 36 month warranty so I decided to give these a shot.

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Old Jan 4, 2025 | 08:34 PM
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Thanks Bob for the additional photos.

It is kind of a big deal, because not everyone can afford the high dollar prices of Enersys TPPL AGM batteries such as the Odyssey Extreme, Odyssey Performance, Hawker military, Northstar (various names), and Ascent (Batteries+) X2 Power batteries, that are now range between $400 to $500 retail a piece.

However, everyone can benefit from lack of corroded battery trays, battery hold down brackets, and battery cables and terminals that AGM's bring under the hood, along with better resistance to vibration, lack of having to open up caps to refill with only steam distilled water, and deal with any spillage or outgassing. AGM batteries remove all those pain points.

So to any and every extent that AGM batteries, in the Group 65 size, become more widely available at price points below $200 per battery, we as a community all benefit from having a clear, crowd sourced understanding of what the options on the table are.

With that said, I'd like to ask you to take a close photo of the two alphanumeric stampings on the bottom of your new battery case... in particular, the unreadable stamping towards the upper left half in your photo of the bottom.

In the meantime, I identified the first AGM battery plant in South Korea, which opened in 2005. It was later acquired by Hankook, and here is an image of what their Group 65 AGM battery supposedly looks like:

AGM배터리

I'm not buying accuracy of this image. The case shown does not meet the BCI specifications for Group 65. Most importantly, the terminal positions are reversed, relative to polarity and proximity to a long side of the case.

So the search continues.

Nowadays, South Korea is bigger than Detroit when it comes to the automotive industry.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2025 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by longhaultransport
The two I just purchased are like the stock photos and are 750cca. They are both dated 12/24

I also purchased 2 today and they are only the cca 750's and have sticker 12/24 on them. Receipt says Product Serial #HAN0000657718 Platinum 65 019032754102 if that helps anyone. It's downpouring again and i can't go out and take pictures yet of them with the stamps and labels on them. My local store says they have no such batteries with 775 even in there system and they don't exist anywhere on walmart.com to even purchase anything but the 750cca's.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2025 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Y2KW57
Thanks Bob for the additional photos.

It is kind of a big deal, because not everyone can afford the high dollar prices of Enersys TPPL AGM batteries such as the Odyssey Extreme, Odyssey Performance, Hawker military, Northstar (various names), and Ascent (Batteries+) X2 Power batteries, that are now range between $400 to $500 retail a piece.

However, everyone can benefit from lack of corroded battery trays, battery hold down brackets, and battery cables and terminals that AGM's bring under the hood, along with better resistance to vibration, lack of having to open up caps to refill with only steam distilled water, and deal with any spillage or outgassing. AGM batteries remove all those pain points.

So to any and every extent that AGM batteries, in the Group 65 size, become more widely available at price points below $200 per battery, we as a community all benefit from having a clear, crowd sourced understanding of what the options on the table are.

With that said, I'd like to ask you to take a close photo of the two alphanumeric stampings on the bottom of your new battery case... in particular, the unreadable stamping towards the upper left half in your photo of the bottom.

In the meantime, I identified the first AGM battery plant in South Korea, which opened in 2005. It was later acquired by Hankook, and here is an image of what their Group 65 AGM battery supposedly looks like:

AGM배터리

I'm not buying accuracy of this image. The case shown does not meet the BCI specifications for Group 65. Most importantly, the terminal positions are reversed, relative to polarity and proximity to a long side of the case.

So the search continues.

Nowadays, South Korea is bigger than Detroit when it comes to the automotive industry.
I am in that group for sure. I just can’t afford to spend a thousand dollars on batteries.

I can’t find a UPC anywhere on the paperwork.

This is what’s on the bottom of the battery.






 
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Old Jan 4, 2025 | 09:07 PM
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Old Jan 4, 2025 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Y2KW57
It is kind of a big deal, because not everyone can afford the high dollar prices of Enersys TPPL AGM batteries such as the Odyssey Extreme, Odyssey Performance, Hawker military, Northstar (various names), and Ascent (Batteries+) X2 Power batteries, that are now range between $400 to $500 retail a piece.
I completely agree and 99% of the time I'm in that group as well. I got lucky that I discovered my dying batteries about a month after receiving my year end bonus. That money hadn't been earmarked by the wife yet, and I tossed in what she would have spent on my birthday a month later. So given the circumstances, I went with one of the best, X2 Power AGM. The 10% online purchase discount per battery helped too!
Otherwise, I usually buy EverStarts for the convenience. Bought one for the daughter's car last year. However, now that I'm seeing multiple variations of the same brand, I may rethink purchasing EverStart in the future.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2025 | 10:20 PM
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Okay guys. I believe I nailed down who the manufacturers are of each of the two different Walmart branded Everstart Platinum AGM Group 65 batteries are, between @chadstickpoindexter and @HorizontalHunter . I have not had time to look up the 3rd version yet.

It took less than an hour, but I still feel like I should charge something for this information, only because I was so driven to find out with absolute certainty, despite private label obfuscation, I even recruited my better half, who holds nearly a half century of career experience in one particular industry, with the last 40 years in the distribution business of that industry, to help me out concurrently as an independent cross check.

And I didn't tell her what the product was. If I had, she might have said "Pfftt. A truck battery? Why don't you just go to Walmart and get whatever battery they have in stock?" Which of course, is the very crux of our current forum problem to solve. I couldn't tell her that.

So I made up a curiosity within her own industry, involving unrelated manufacturers that I knew she would be familiar with, and asked her to find an accurate, no marketing clickbait BS means for identifying those manufacturers that she already knows by their GTIN code,... online.

(The most recent 33 volume set of the complete Thomas Register in my library, occupying 7 linear feet of shelf space, is dated 1999. No longer relevant today, but I can't bear to get rid of it, as it cost an arm and a leg that I wish I still had now that my remaining arm and leg have been broken by inflation)

She came back with the same verification process that I had came up with earlier, so I'd call that double validated, since she had no idea what I was actually looking for, and used an entirely different means (and much saner mentality) to arrive at the same result in identifying a verification process.

And for that matter, she probably doesn't even realize that I have sinfully priced Enersys Made In USA TPPL AGM batteries under the hood of every vehicle in our driveway. So y'all keep that little no expense spared secret to yourselves. Otherwise, I'll be heading to Walmart the next time I need a battery.

But at least I now know who makes which Walmart battery in the Platinum AGM Group 65 size. And I don't charge, so you will know too.

1. The Walmart Everlast Platinum AGM Group 65 batteries bought by @longhaultransport and @chadstickpoindexter were manufactured by Clarios, which means they were made by Varta, a wholly owned manufacturing division of Clarios, owned by Brookfield Partners, who bought the battery business of Johnson Controls back in 2019.

2. The Walmart Everlast Platinum AGM Group 65 batteries bought by @HorizontalHunter are distributed to Walmart by FVP (which stands for Factory Verified. Proven.), which is a wholly owned division of Factory Motor Parts, who also distributes Exide branded batteries made in India, along with ALTASBX batteries made in South Korea.

So there you have it. Mystery solved. If nothing else, we know that neither of these Walmart Everstart batteries were made by "JCI", as some may still be tempted to assume even 6 years after the fact.

I have no opinion on which battery is better... but since both chadstickpoindexter and HorizontalHunter installed batteries at the same time, we may form an opinion over the next 4 years.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2025 | 10:41 PM
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Alternatives brand equivalents to the Everlast Platinum Group 65 775 CCA: (similar to @HorizontalHunter )




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Old Jan 4, 2025 | 11:34 PM
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Alternative brand equivalents to the Everlast Platinum AGM Group 65 750 CCA: (similar to @chadstickpoindexter and @longhaultransport)





 
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