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Old May 18, 2024 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by TexasJackKin
Tagging for interest, I try not to idle my truck excessively, but this is always a concern.
What is excessive?
 
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Old May 18, 2024 | 09:13 AM
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Not really, if you actually read the TSB. 1.) It's not ALL 7.3 equipped trucks, 2.) The build date range is limited, 3.) Not all buyers are doing a lot of excessive idling, 4.) First gen 7.3 engines are not affected at this point, or they would have been included as well (2020-2022).

It's not a "sky is falling" for all 7.3 owners, is my point. Best thing to do if one has a 2023+, is to contact their dealer to check and see if their truck is included in the TSB.

You may not even be included and still get over 200k miles with nary a hiccup. I'm just glad Ford identified a problem and is trying to remedy it. Maybe they are trying to get back to "Quality is Job #1".
My point is when Ford states this in their software update memo they really are not fixing the problem %100. ( This will help minimize the number of vehicles that require a more extensive repair). As we all know everything is dollar driven. For Ford they are financially better off putting a replacement engine in (rumored 2%) of their 7.3 powered products than step up to the plate with a new lifter, camshaft or oil pump design that supersedes the current designs and having to eat the install labor. If they can reduce the failures even lower to 1% or less, it's a win for them. It's just not a win for the guy or gal that draws the short straw. This corporate mentality is not just a Ford problem, many vehicle manufactures stay in denial as long as possible, it's all about the bottom dollar. My point is when you spend 50K to 100K for a new vehicle 99.999% should be problem free for many years and miles. Time will tell if this problem is solved.
 

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Old May 18, 2024 | 09:30 AM
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I said the variable oil pump was a dumb and stupid idea 5 years ago when it was announced.
 
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Old May 18, 2024 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by jcb206
What is excessive?
Good question, if I knew I'd tell you. I just try to keep it to a minimum IDK 5 or 10 minuets or less. I know there are applications where they could idle for hours, I'd be worried about that....
 
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Old May 18, 2024 | 09:56 AM
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Nothing for my 2023 7.3

 
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Old May 18, 2024 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ATC Crazy
I said the variable oil pump was a dumb and stupid idea 5 years ago when it was announced.
I couldn't agree more! I have a 3.6L Wrangler with the same thing.... ridiculous
 
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Old May 18, 2024 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Boss598
My point is when Ford states this in their software update memo they really are not fixing the problem %100. ( This will help minimize the number of vehicles that require a more extensive repair). As we all know everything is dollar driven. For Ford they are financially better off putting a replacement engine in (rumored 2%) of their 7.3 powered products than step up to the plate with a new lifter, camshaft or oil pump design that supersedes the current designs and having to eat the install labor. If they can reduce the failures even lower to 1% or less, it's a win for them. It's just not a win for the guy or gal that draws the short straw. This corporate mentality is not just a Ford problem, many vehicle manufactures stay in denial as long as possible, it's all about the bottom dollar. My point is when you spend 50K to 100K for a new vehicle 99.999% should be problem free for many years and miles. Time will tell if this problem is solved.
Obviously known because of you tube and forums the lifter "can" be an issue. It seems when it happened it was mostly before 36,000 miles and covered by warranty. I personally think it's over blown issue because then why doesn't every 7.3 have the lifter problem?
 
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Old May 18, 2024 | 01:14 PM
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Obviously known because of you tube and forums the lifter "can" be an issue. It seems when it happened it was mostly before 36,000 miles and covered by warranty. I personally think it's over blown issue because then why doesn't every 7.3 have the lifter problem?
Because they're all used differently and idled for different amounts of time with different drivers who may or may not have a clue about what they're doing?
 
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Old May 18, 2024 | 01:58 PM
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Because they're all used differently and idled for different amounts of time with different drivers who may or may not have a clue about what they're doing?
I don't know about that ...it's a vehicle and pretty rudimentary to operate. Open door, sit in, insert key, turn key, vroom..vroom... off we go.
Of course for us pee ons that don't have the luxury model truck with all the bells and whistles it's how it's done.
Could some just get crap parts or poor assembly.
 
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Old May 18, 2024 | 02:02 PM
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Probably 40% of the 7.3's are sold for commercial use. Take oilfield, railroad, or mining: these guys drive to jobsite, then often wait many hours until their specific work is needed. Meanwhile they idle the company truck for endless hours with AC or heat on as they play with their phone.

If excessive idling was killing these engines I think fleet owners would have raised hell with Ford by now.
 
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Old May 18, 2024 | 02:55 PM
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Probably 40% of the 7.3's are sold for commercial use. Take oilfield, railroad, or mining: these guys drive to jobsite, then often wait many hours until their specific work is needed. Meanwhile they idle the company truck for endless hours with AC or heat on as they play with their phone.

If excessive idling was killing these engines I think fleet owners would have raised hell with Ford by now.
This right here and I fall into one of the categories. Truck @ 148,151 miles, oil change intervals 8-9,000 miles. Idle for hours at a time. Interstate driving at 75-85 mph for hundreds of miles with commutes to job locations 12-16 hours at times. I would think I'm a prime failure candidate but then maybe tomorrow the day it gives up the ghost. I do plan to keep this truck for another 100- 150k miles or so which would be 2 - 3 years. 😉
 
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Old May 18, 2024 | 05:37 PM
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I might try unplugging the oil pressure control solenoid in the garage and seeing what happens at idle.
 
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Old May 18, 2024 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by scraprat
This right here and I fall into one of the categories. Truck @ 148,151 miles, oil change intervals 8-9,000 miles. Idle for hours at a time. Interstate driving at 75-85 mph for hundreds of miles with commutes to job locations 12-16 hours at times. I would think I'm a prime failure candidate but then maybe tomorrow the day it gives up the ghost. I do plan to keep this truck for another 100- 150k miles or so which would be 2 - 3 years. 😉
blackstone report would be interesting.
 
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Old May 18, 2024 | 06:10 PM
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Old May 18, 2024 | 07:00 PM
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blackstone report would be interesting.
2 done so far and more to come.


😉
 
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