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Old May 17, 2024 | 06:44 PM
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The 2023-2024 have stamped rocker arms vs the 2020-2022 casted rocker arms. Have not seen or heard of any legitimate source there was a change to the cam and lifters.

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I keep saying lifters, I meant rockers. My error.
 
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Old May 17, 2024 | 09:52 PM
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I really like my dealer but they need step by step instructions. I had mine in for a recall this week and they didn’t do this one. May 2023 build. I idle about 20%. Don’t know if that is “a lot” but it puts me in severe oil change intervals. I change every 6k.
 
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Old May 17, 2024 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Garbageman 134
Huh. I wonder what my oil pressure is at idle in my 2022. Is there any way to check with a scan gauge or does a mechanical pressure sensor need to be installed somewhere?
Currently the oil pressure switch is just that, a simple switch. Either Normal Open (no pressure below a certain set threshold hence a Zero reading) or once pressure reaches that threshold the switch closes and you see it on the gage but not as a value. This is why even using ForScan you can’t read a PID for actual oil pressure. What should have been used is a switch that reads pressure. Then you would get a value.
You can check pressure with a remote handheld gage, add a manual/electrical and mount in the cab to monitor, or as I plan add the Banks module so I can monitor using the iDash.
 
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Old May 18, 2024 | 06:03 AM
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I really like my dealer but they need step by step instructions. I had mine in for a recall this week and they didn’t do this one. May 2023 build. I idle about 20%. Don’t know if that is “a lot†but it puts me in severe oil change intervals. I change every 6k.
Well to be fair the letter is only dated for Monday the 13.
 
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Old May 18, 2024 | 06:17 AM
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Well to be fair the letter is only dated for Monday the 13.
True, but if they created the letter you would think you can check your truck on their website and see the CSP, no?

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Old May 18, 2024 | 06:29 AM
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Not a recall by any means and probably isn't anything of much concern to owners. This is simply a PCM update/flash and will likely be performed during PDI. Othes who have already purchased can simply have their PCM updated if they choose. Some can likely have it done by a mobile tech at their home or work.
Actually, this is a concern to 7.3 owners. Many like me held back ordering a new Superduty with a 7.3 for a few years because of the lifter / cam failure issues. After 5 years of Ford manufacturing the 7.3 it is disappointing that it's still a problem that has not been corrected. Whether it's cam and lifter materials, cam and lifter design or oil system design the reason for failure has never been corrected. I bought a new F350 with a 7.3 last summer because I figured the problem had been addressed after four years, nope it's still a problem in its fifth year of production. In the letter from Ford they state (Ford encourages dealers and customers to have this service preformed as soon as possible. This will help minimize the number of vehicles that may need a more extensive repair). This tells me you do want to get this update asap, it also tells me it's a bandaid on the problem but not a fix. I have a V10 F350, and a 6.2 F350 also and they have had their minor problems but neither one has ever had a valve cover off. If I still own my 2023 in three years, I will get the extended warranty. If Ford can identify the cam/ lifter failure problem and come up with a real fix for it, I will trade my truck in for a new one.
 

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Old May 18, 2024 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Boss598
Actually, this is a concern to 7.3 owners. Many like me held back ordering a new Superduty with a 7.3 for a few years because of the lifter / cam failure issues. After 5 years of building the 7.3 it is disappointing that it's still a problem that has not been corrected. Whether it's cam and lifter materials, cam and lifter design or oil system design the reason for failure has never been corrected. I bought a new F350 with a 7.3 last summer because I figured the problem had been addressed after four years, nope it's still a problem in its fifth year of production. In the letter from Ford they state (Ford encourages dealers and customers to have this service preformed as soon as possible. This will help minimize the number of vehicles that may need a more extensive repair). This tells me you do want to get this update asap, it also tells me it's a bandaid on the problem but not a fix. I have a V10 F350, and a 6.2 F350 also and they have had their minor problems but neither one has ever had a valve cover off. If I still own my 2023 in three years, I will get the extended warranty. If Ford can identify the cam/ lifter failure problem and come up with a real fix for it, I will trade my truck in for a new one.
Not really, if you actually read the TSB. 1.) It's not ALL 7.3 equipped trucks, 2.) The build date range is limited, 3.) Not all buyers are doing a lot of excessive idling, 4.) First gen 7.3 engines are not affected at this point, or they would have been included as well (2020-2022).

It's not a "sky is falling" for all 7.3 owners, is my point. Best thing to do if one has a 2023+, is to contact their dealer to check and see if their truck is included in the TSB.

You may not even be included and still get over 200k miles with nary a hiccup. I'm just glad Ford identified a problem and is trying to remedy it. Maybe they are trying to get back to "Quality is Job #1".
 
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Old May 18, 2024 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Boss598
Actually, this is a concern to 7.3 owners. Many like me held back ordering a new Superduty with a 7.3 for a few years because of the lifter / cam failure issues. After 5 years of Ford manufacturing the 7.3 it is disappointing that it's still a problem that has not been corrected. Whether it's cam and lifter materials, cam and lifter design or oil system design the reason for failure has never been corrected. I bought a new F350 with a 7.3 last summer because I figured the problem had been addressed after four years, nope it's still a problem in its fifth year of production. In the letter from Ford they state (Ford encourages dealers and customers to have this service preformed as soon as possible. This will help minimize the number of vehicles that may need a more extensive repair). This tells me you do want to get this update asap, it also tells me it's a bandaid on the problem but not a fix. I have a V10 F350, and a 6.2 F350 also and they have had their minor problems but neither one has ever had a valve cover off. If I still own my 2023 in three years, I will get the extended warranty. If Ford can identify the cam/ lifter failure problem and come up with a real fix for it, I will trade my truck in for a new one.
You have had your valve cover off on the 7.3 or are you predicting it's going to be needed? Don't live in fear of owning a vehicle.
 
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Old May 18, 2024 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by S1njin
True, but if they created the letter you would think you can check your truck on their website and see the CSP, no?

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Possibly, I don’t know how that all works. He said he had his truck in for service last week and felt that they should have addressed this. I was pointing out that the letter is dated for Monday from corporate and till all protocols are in place and implemented it is possible that his truck was already done and back home.
 
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Old May 18, 2024 | 08:19 AM
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I talked with the service manager of my selling dealer yesterday. he said they had just recently been made aware of the CSP 24B27 bulletin. He said that they would be supplied with a list of VIN's of the "affected" vehicles sold by them, and they would then contact the owners of record. He also told me that if my truck was one of the affected vehicles, it would show up on my Ford Owners webite dashboard. He did not know what affect changes to PCM had on the engine. He pulled my VIN on his system and told me my truck (mfrd early Jan 2024) was not on his list of affected trucks FWIW
 
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Old May 18, 2024 | 08:20 AM
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Tagging for interest, I try not to idle my truck excessively, but this is always a concern.
 
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Old May 18, 2024 | 08:22 AM
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So I have an 8/23 build date but when I search my Vin in the recall and CSP checker nothing comes up. Is this only considered an issue if idling more than normal? I try not to idle much at all, unless just stuck in road construction or something.
 
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Old May 18, 2024 | 08:34 AM
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So my truck is a 2021 F350 7.3 and just had a replacement engine. The date of manufacture of the new engine is likely to be in 2024; or late 2023? (replaced April 2024). So do I need this software update? Thoughts? Pardon me if I'm a little sensitive to engine failure.
 
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Old May 18, 2024 | 08:48 AM
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The 23+ trucks do have a different oil pressure switch. The video with Brian Wolfe and Revan Evan points out the different oil pressure switches. I dont know the difference but I know the 20-22 have a dummy switch so a software update may be impossible on the 20-22. I have a Job-3 2022 built post 10R140 CDF drum update so I'm not worried about a lot of the issues that early 7.3/10R140 owners have had.

Has anybody even heard of a 2023+ 7.3 having catastrophic failure?
 
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Old May 18, 2024 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by scraprat
You have had your valve cover off on the 7.3 or are you predicting it's going to be needed? Don't live in fear of owning a vehicle.
My 2023 has been good so far. I don't fear owning a the vehicle, I just get disappointed in a product when it has had the same issues for years and the company cannot step up to the plate and fix it.
 
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