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Old Mar 14, 2024 | 08:23 AM
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Looking at a crew cab F250/7.3 gas crew cab short bed, the default is 3.73. Besides being my commuter vehicle (super long 11.8 miles one way) the primary purpose of upgrading from a 1/2 ton will be to tow a 9-10k travel trailer. I have always gone with the lowest (highest number) gears, but it seems like with a 10 speed tranny that even the 3.55 gears* would be "OK".

We will be towing in every possible reasonable road conditions throughout the lower 48, probably some Canada and Alaska.

*I will be going with the "locking" option. BTW - what is that/how does it work? Is it automatic and a full-on lock? Manually lock? LSD? Curious because the default is a "non-limited slip" from which I infer that a limited-slip is available but the options are for an "Electronic locking"
 
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Old Mar 14, 2024 | 09:16 AM
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The locking differential is an electronic locker. You lock the diff by pulling out the 4x4 selector ****. The truck automatically disengaged the locker if you exceed 20 MPH or so. With the locker disengaged the differential is an open set.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2024 | 09:19 AM
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Gears are a very sensitive topic on this forum, as you will find out. Some people on here love the 7.3 with 3.55’s, I didn’t.

I didn’t so much that I traded it in for the same exact truck with 4.30’s.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2024 | 09:43 AM
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For what you are towing 3.73 should be fine, 3.55 probably would be ok and will give slightly better mpg. There is no limited slip diff available. The locker is enabled by a button on the 23+ and it will disengage automatically at the design speed of 25MPH and re-engage when you slow down below 25MPH.

BTW; There are some on here that 4.30's are the only way to go even if you don't have the load that requires it.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2024 | 09:56 AM
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Having towed 70% more weight with 3.73s than you are looking to tow, it will be just fine. Especially if your trailer profile is smaller than mine was. There won't be a grade you can't climb at the speed limit with 3.73s towing 10k lbs.
 
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Originally Posted by Strider250
For what you are towing 3.73 should be fine, 3.55 probably would be ok and will give slightly better mpg. There is no limited slip diff available. The locker is enabled by a button on the 23+ and it will disengage automatically at the design speed of 25MPH and re-engage when you slow down below 25MPH.

BTW; There are some on here that 4.30's are the only way to go even if you don't have the load that requires it.
There are many stuck with 4:30s because the 4:88 is not an option for f350.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2024 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Strider250
For what you are towing 3.73 should be fine, 3.55 probably would be ok and will give slightly better mpg. There is no limited slip diff available. The locker is enabled by a button on the 23+ and it will disengage automatically at the design speed of 25MPH and re-engage when you slow down below 25MPH.

BTW; There are some on here that 4.30's are the only way to go even if you don't have the load that requires it.
To each his own. Some people on here spend $10,000 plus more expensive maintenance and higher fuel cost for a diesel they don’t need.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2024 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by OBS460
Having towed 70% more weight with 3.73s than you are looking to tow, it will be just fine. Especially if your trailer profile is smaller than mine was.
This will be an Airstream. Which supposedly has near ridiculous aerodynamics if you listen to them.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2024 | 01:33 PM
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3.73’s will be fine for your use.

3.55’s are not offered behind a gas engine anymore, so we can forget about those for this discussion. 3.73 or 4.30 is all you get.
 
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3.73 + 10 speed + DD with an Airstream occasional tow =

If we were talking 6 speed the 4.30 for sure, but the low ranges on the 10 speed more than make it up. The only real difference is you might be in 9th at 70 instead of 10th. Big deal.
 
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Originally Posted by TestPilot57
This will be an Airstream. Which supposedly has near ridiculous aerodynamics if you listen to them.
In the way a rhinoceros is more aerodynamic than an elephant. It is better than my fifth wheel but no is confusing it with a VW XL1 anytime soon.

 
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Originally Posted by rufushusky
In the way a rhinoceros is more aerodynamic than an elephant. It is better than my fifth wheel but no is confusing it with a VW XL1 anytime soon.
Urgh, I really want a VW XL1 chassis but with a Ford Fiesta's DLD motor and manual gearbox, for solo run about and for commuting I don't need a truck and a small long legged diesel like that would be the bees knees.
 
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Originally Posted by OBS460
Having towed 70% more weight with 3.73s than you are looking to tow, it will be just fine. Especially if your trailer profile is smaller than mine was. There won't be a grade you can't climb at the speed limit with 3.73s towing 10k lbs.
My 3.55 CCLB tows 10-12 k up sustained grades just fine, when the going gets really steep, I slow down to the speed limit, lock out 9th an 10th and have the equivalent of 4.8 rear end at the top end 8 speed gear box with a 4.0 equivalent first gear on the 6R100. I'm happy as a clam at high tide when it hums up the hill like the load is 1/2 its real weight.

But I also don't run 35 inch tires so that helps. With 4.30 if one runs 35s it's only 5% lower gearing than a 3.73 running 32 inch tires, so if one is not going to upsize in tires both the current gearings Ford offers will do fine.
 
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3.55’s are not offered behind a gas engine anymore, so we can forget about those for this discussion. 3.73 or 4.30 is all you get.

 
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Old Mar 14, 2024 | 03:27 PM
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I just tried to do a build and select the 3.55 with the 7.3L gas engine and it brings up the dialog that says it will add the diesel and remove the gas engine. So, it looks like even though it shows as an option, it is only for the diesels.
 
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