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Old Feb 23, 2024 | 09:00 AM
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Clumpy oil after using Archoil?

Hello all, I recently change the oil in a 2007 6.0. A day after the oil change the deltas started to separate like never before. 90% of the time the spread previously was 5 to 7. Now I’m getting 10 and 15. Normally the oil temp was rarely above 200 unless towing. Truck is totally stock except for egr. This morning I went to check the oil filter to see if maybe it wasn’t setting correctly allowing oil to bypass the filter and not getting through the cooler. It was installed correctly, but I found it was nasty and gummed up. Truck has everything oem. Filter, cap all Motorcraft. Rotella oil. I was experiencing some stiction which is why I tried the archoil. I did the flush procedure last year and swapped the oil cooler with oem parts. It’s was perfect since then. I’m going to change the oil again and not use the archoil. I’ll check the filter again after a few miles. I’m going to change the oil and filter immediately. I will check it again after driving then check the filter and change the filter again.

Have any of you seen this before?





 
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Old Feb 23, 2024 | 09:02 AM
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Archoil "what"?

They make/sell multiple products. Which one did you use?
 
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Old Feb 23, 2024 | 09:34 AM
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NEVER and I have used Archoil 9100 religiously for 7+ years

Almost looks like the EGR recirculation soot from your intake. You mention the EGR is different but have you rerouted the CCV out or the equation, or still blowing into your intake?

I don't have it anymore but I recall the inside of my intake looking the same.


I should have mentioned, I use the large truck spin on filter provided by BPD for the air to oil kit I run. Regardless, with that much $h*7 in your engine, I am sure I'd see remnants if that was going on in mine.

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Old Feb 23, 2024 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by MB1996
Hello all, I recently change the oil in a 2007 6.0. A day after the oil change the deltas started to separate like never before. 90% of the time the spread previously was 5 to 7. Now I’m getting 10 and 15. Normally the oil temp was rarely above 200 unless towing. Truck is totally stock except for egr. This morning I went to check the oil filter to see if maybe it wasn’t setting correctly allowing oil to bypass the filter and not getting through the cooler. It was installed correctly, but I found it was nasty and gummed up. Truck has everything oem. Filter, cap all Motorcraft. Rotella oil. I was experiencing some stiction which is why I tried the archoil. I did the flush procedure last year and swapped the oil cooler with oem parts. It’s was perfect since then. I’m going to change the oil again and not use the archoil. I’ll check the filter again after a few miles. I’m going to change the oil and filter immediately. I will check it again after driving then check the filter and change the filter again.

Have any of you seen this before?



Unless whatever that stuff is will dissolve that engine is hosed. Every orifice in the motor will be plugged I would think.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2024 | 10:13 AM
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Where did you get the Archoil from?

I'd send a sample to Blackstone or another oil analyzing site to get it checked before doing anything.

When an ex-co-worker used to be a service manager at our region's largest Chevy dealership, he had an older man come in with an oil problem. He was a woodworker and thought he put oil into his engine; it was linseed oil. He didn't like plastic bottles, so he would put the new motor oil into his old, washed-out gallon steel cans but mixed them up. Labeling would have helped.

Edit - Lol, my spell checker changed Archoil to Amsoil.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2024 | 10:36 AM
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AR9100

Forgot to add that it was AR9100
 
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Old Feb 23, 2024 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by joe blow
NEVER and I have used Archoil 9100 religiously for 7+ years

Almost looks like the EGR recirculation soot from your intake. You mention the EGR is different but have you rerouted the CCV out or the equation, or still blowing into your intake?

I don't have it anymore but I recall the inside of my intake looking the same.


I should have mentioned, I use the large truck spin on filter provided by BPD for the air to oil kit I run. Regardless, with that much $h*7 in your engine, I am sure I'd see remnants if that was going on in mine.

Good luck

You mentioned the CCV reroute. It’s actually my friend truck and I’m helping him figure it out. The CCV reroute was never done and I’ve seen oil leak coming from the driver exhaust manifold. What’s the best CCV reroute method for the 6.0?
 
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Old Feb 23, 2024 | 10:45 AM
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There are a few ways. One way is to route it to the atmosphere behind the cab, or reroute to a truck style filter
https://www.jmesales.com/parker-raco...oaAlaZEALw_wcB

I have it setup using the racor as pictured and have for years. Just recently I routed it to atmosphere because one of my hoses needed replacing and I got lazy.

I capped off the inlet at the intake elbow and went with it. I heard stories of foul smell, oil residue all over the place blah blah.....Not one of those claims yielded truth....take it for what its worth.

You'd be astonished to see the buildup in your intake from that $hi7
 
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Old Feb 23, 2024 | 10:49 AM
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I've done 8 oil changes over the last 30,000kms and 3 of those used Archoil friction modifier and 2 with Hotshot stiction eliminator and my oil and filters have always looked super clean so I HIGHLY doubt a couple ounces of AR9100 caused that! Oil looks like it has 100,000kms on it so I dunno, but looks like a tear down is in your near future
 
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Old Feb 23, 2024 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by wpg_250
I've done 8 oil changes over the last 30,000kms and 3 of those used Archoil friction modifier and 2 with Hotshot stiction eliminator and my oil and filters have always looked super clean so I HIGHLY doubt a couple ounces of AR9100 caused that! Oil looks like it has 100,000kms on it so I dunno, but looks like a tear down is in your near future

Good point.

Now that I reread the post and realized it is NOT your truck, how long did this go between oil changes?
 
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Old Feb 23, 2024 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by joe blow
There are a few ways. One way is to route it to the atmosphere behind the cab, or reroute to a truck style filter
https://www.jmesales.com/parker-raco...oaAlaZEALw_wcB

I have it setup using the racor as pictured and have for years. Just recently I routed it to atmosphere because one of my hoses needed replacing and I got lazy.

I capped off the inlet at the intake elbow and went with it. I heard stories of foul smell, oil residue all over the place blah blah.....Not one of those claims yielded truth....take it for what its worth.

You'd be astonished to see the buildup in your intake from that $hi7

Curious why you did the ccv delete?
 
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Old Feb 23, 2024 | 10:59 AM
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I've ran Achoil 9100 a few times and never had issues.

I watch a Youtube Channel of a guy that tears down wrecked motors and this looks what he finds when someone runs very extended oil change intervals. I would hate to see the rest of the motor, it can't be pretty.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2024 | 11:03 AM
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Yeah - wow...that's nasty!

I'm also a religious user of Archoil 9100 and have NEVER seen anything like that. My truck currently has 188K on the clock.

Just a SWAG, but my guess is that the truck had been abused with long oil chance intervals and low maintenance and the insides had tons of buildup in there. The archoil circulating through the system just helped to loosen that stuff up...

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Old Feb 23, 2024 | 11:08 AM
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"Forgot" to add it was Ar9100, LOL

The only real detail you gave us is that it is nasty and gummed up. Pictures are good, but they can not communicate what words can ....

Describe the solids .............
  • sludge?
  • sticky?
  • all soft clumps?
  • sludge containing particles?
  • if contains particles, are they magnetic?

Then, you should probably keep enough of it to see what might dissolve the "material". Maybe try diesel fuel first.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2024 | 11:46 AM
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I just help him with general maintenance. The last 3 were done after 3000 miles. I just changed the oil prior to discovering this less than 75 miles ago. He mentioned the delta separation grew since the last oil change 75 miles ago. The only thing I changed was putting in the Archoil 9100. I noticed oil leaking out of the drivers side manifold and checked for oil in the turbo. I then noticed oil built up in the factory ccv box mounting to the drivers valve cover.
 
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