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Old Feb 23, 2024 | 11:59 PM
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Old Feb 24, 2024 | 03:52 AM
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Hello all, I recently change the oil in a 2007 6.0. A day after the oil change the deltas started to separate like never before. 90% of the time the spread previously was 5 to 7. Now I’m getting 10 and 15. Normally the oil temp was rarely above 200 unless towing. Truck is totally stock except for egr. This morning I went to check the oil filter to see if maybe it wasn’t setting correctly allowing oil to bypass the filter and not getting through the cooler. It was installed correctly, but I found it was nasty and gummed up. Truck has everything oem. Filter, cap all Motorcraft. Rotella oil. I was experiencing some stiction which is why I tried the archoil. I did the flush procedure last year and swapped the oil cooler with oem parts. It’s was perfect since then. I’m going to change the oil again and not use the archoil. I’ll check the filter again after a few miles. I’m going to change the oil and filter immediately. I will check it again after driving then check the filter and change the filter again.

Have any of you seen this before?


Looks to me like there's a piece missing on top of the stand pipe.

I have also been using AR9100 with every oil change for many years and have never seen anything like this.

What would cause oil to be leaking out of the head at the exhaust port? Leaky valve stem seal?
 
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Old Feb 24, 2024 | 07:01 AM
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I'm guessing the owner added something like oil stop leak or whatever and is now regretting it and blaming it on the Archoil. Doesn't appear to be contaminated with coolant and looks like it's been cooked/burnt to me, but who knows!
 
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Old Feb 24, 2024 | 07:35 AM
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Only time we see things like this they are not in running condition.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2024 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Maxium4x4
Only time we see things like this they are not in running condition.
Oh I don't think that engine will be in running condition for much longer lol. The oil/egr coolers must be clogged to all hell and soon enough an area of the engine will be starved of oil and grenade
 
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Old Feb 24, 2024 | 08:32 AM
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I'm guessing the owner added something like oil stop leak or whatever and is now regretting it and blaming it on the Archoil. Doesn't appear to be contaminated with coolant and looks like it's been cooked/burnt to me, but who knows!
You might be onto something, or even HG stop leak.

Towards the end of my HG life, before it let loose, I recall seeing oil residue on one side of the exhaust manifold.

Coincidence? Maybe

No stop leak here
 
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Old Feb 24, 2024 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by joe blow
You might be onto something, or even HG stop leak.

Towards the end of my HG life, before it let loose, I recall seeing oil residue on one side of the exhaust manifold.

Coincidence? Maybe

No stop leak here

Whatever the case it's not because of the Archoil lol.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2024 | 12:09 PM
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Climbing out on the limb here playing the guessing game. Truck is used with past neglect, when the Archoil was added could it start breaking up sludge that was present?

Just speculating...........
 
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Old Feb 24, 2024 | 02:41 PM
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OP interested in what you've come up with.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2024 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxium4x4
Climbing out on the limb here playing the guessing game. Truck is used with past neglect, when the Archoil was added could it start breaking up sludge that was present?

Just speculating...........
If there was that much sludge in there before I think it would have been evident.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2024 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by wpg_250
I'm guessing the owner added something like oil stop leak or whatever and is now regretting it and blaming it on the Archoil. Doesn't appear to be contaminated with coolant and looks like it's been cooked/burnt to me, but who knows!
You’re guessing wrong. My buddy is just an older gentlemen that doesn’t work on his vehicles. He has only done pump diesel. I just now got him talked into using fuel treatment to help him keep his truck lasting longer. I do his oil changes and suggested he use the archoil. I realize it’s probably not the archoil. It’s just only the only thing that has been different in the last 3 oil changes. Was just asking if anyone else had seen it. Wasn’t calling anyone’s kid ugly.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2024 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TooManyToys.
Where did you get the Archoil from?

I'd send a sample to Blackstone or another oil analyzing site to get it checked before doing anything.

When an ex-co-worker used to be a service manager at our region's largest Chevy dealership, he had an older man come in with an oil problem. He was a woodworker and thought he put oil into his engine; it was linseed oil. He didn't like plastic bottles, so he would put the new motor oil into his old, washed-out gallon steel cans but mixed them up. Labeling would have helped.

Edit - Lol, my spell checker changed Archoil to Amsoil.
I bought it from the Archoil site.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2024 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by wpg_250
I'm guessing the owner added something like oil stop leak or whatever and is now regretting it and blaming it on the Archoil. Doesn't appear to be contaminated with coolant and looks like it's been cooked/burnt to me, but who knows!
Nope. Just Ar6500 in 1 tank and 16oz of AR9100 after the last oil change. The man doesn’t add anything, but diesel. He doesn’t mess around. I’m changing the oil again and sending off a sample to find out what all is in there. Going to flush it again as well. He’s a good dude. Hoping no one dumped stuff in there to mess with him.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2024 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by joe blow
"I would appreciate any ideas about the cause"

Uhhhhh...... I think that is what everyone here has been doing bro.

No one will be able to give you a definitive answer without being there. Blackstone will surely give you a better idea based on the analysis.

The oil surely looks like the it has been in the engine for 30k miles without change, but I am sure that is not the case.

Dump the oil, add new with filter, drive it a few hundred miles and check the filter again.

Only option you have
Yep. Ordered the blackstone kit. Going to flush and change the oil again next week. It’s parked in my garage for now.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2024 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by MB1996
You’re guessing wrong. My buddy is just an older gentlemen that doesn’t work on his vehicles. He has only done pump diesel. I just now got him talked into using fuel treatment to help him keep his truck lasting longer. I do his oil changes and suggested he use the archoil. I realize it’s probably not the archoil. It’s just only the only thing that has been different in the last 3 oil changes. Was just asking if anyone else had seen it. Wasn’t calling anyone’s kid ugly.

Wasn't trying to offend you or anything bro, but does look like someone put something in the oil.....to what end though?

It's just very odd as we've never seen anything like this before and Archoil friction modifier has been used for over a decade now and no reports like this that i can find so again very odd. Rotella has a good amount of detergents so if there was a bunch of sludge in the engine you for SURE would have seen something in the OCI's you've done so the Archoil breaking up the gunk just doesn't seem logical.

Please keep us posted 🙂
 
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