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Old Jul 30, 2022 | 06:49 AM
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Good idea on the 2X4 guard rails. I do have the outriggers installed. They were almost half the cost of one of the scaffolding sections.
I will be sure to do some testing before I begin any work with objects in my hands.
The way it is set up in my picture is probably as high as I will need to go with it. So I have plenty of room to add extra side safety support.
They do sell a guard rail system, but it looks to me like it only fits at the very top.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2022 | 08:22 PM
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I got my first panel up today. This section will be fairly easy since I have that storage platform to use. The 2X4 guard rails are fantastic. They are very solid and give some great safety protection.
As I was studying on this I wonder if the stringers will really help too much. I think they will make it a lot easier to get the tin up.
I have two cargo/support bars I got at harbor freight. They were a huge help is getting things set. I would have taken a picture of them in use, but I didn't want to climb back down....duh, I could have taken the picture from the platform...well next time.
Funny thing is with the support bars. I was looking at them on Amazon and read a review that said HF had them at half the price. Well, they were the exact same thing and where $30 for two instead of $65 they wanted on Amazon.

I will get this section put up then ponder the more open sections and the wall pieces. For the walls I will need to do a lot of cutting. Not really looking forward to that. It will be very noisy and time consuming.
One great thing about buying the scaffolding is I can do the work at my leisure. I won't be rushed so I can be extra cautious working on the scaffolding and not force the work.


 
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Old Jul 31, 2022 | 10:36 PM
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This shop thread is turning into the brake job that ended in a frame-off restoration.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2022 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Harrier
I got my first panel up today. This section will be fairly easy since I have that storage platform to use. The 2X4 guard rails are fantastic. They are very solid and give some great safety protection.
As I was studying on this I wonder if the stringers will really help too much. I think they will make it a lot easier to get the tin up.
I have two cargo/support bars I got at harbor freight. They were a huge help is getting things set. I would have taken a picture of them in use, but I didn't want to climb back down....duh, I could have taken the picture from the platform...well next time.
Funny thing is with the support bars. I was looking at them on Amazon and read a review that said HF had them at half the price. Well, they were the exact same thing and where $30 for two instead of $65 they wanted on Amazon.

I will get this section put up then ponder the more open sections and the wall pieces. For the walls I will need to do a lot of cutting. Not really looking forward to that. It will be very noisy and time consuming.
One great thing about buying the scaffolding is I can do the work at my leisure. I won't be rushed so I can be extra cautious working on the scaffolding and not force the work.

Once you get the tin up it will sound like a big tin can. So your wife will say, "You should put some insulation over the tin to improve acoustics." So you do that then she says you should cover that with something..... and so on....
 
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Old Aug 1, 2022 | 09:14 AM
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Once you get the tin up it will sound like a big tin can. So your wife will say, "You should put some insulation over the tin to improve acoustics." So you do that then she says you should cover that with something..... and so on....
Abe. I'm assuming you're giving Joe a little hard time. I have my shop almost completely lined with corrugated steel and it doesn't have a tinny sound.



 
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Old Aug 1, 2022 | 09:24 AM
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Joe looks like you have some nice insulated doors. I my pole building came with the house, it was just a shell, my son and I insulated it ourselves. The one major weak leaks were the two overhead doors. They were just plain uninsulated doors and I could see it would be next to impossible, or at least very expensive to heat the building. I lucked out and had a friend who worked for an industrial refrigeration company and is a hoarder. They would buy 12'x12' insulated panels, trim them to size and toss out the left over. My friend dragged literally hundreds of these scraps home. I was able to get enough to install on my overhead doors. The are two 1/8" pieces of plastic sandwiching 2" of foam insulation. The plastic cover cleans easy and makes a great white board to use erasable markers on. This guy dragged so many of these panels home I know at least two other people who used them to insulate their garages for free. He still has a lot of these panels sitting in his back yard.




 
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Old Aug 1, 2022 | 09:41 AM
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Once you get the tin up it will sound like a big tin can. So your wife will say, "You should put some insulation over the tin to improve acoustics." So you do that then she says you should cover that with something..... and so on....
LOL! Most likely true. She rarely goes in the shop. Hopefully she will soon to go through all the tubs that are in my way. But once this project really starts moving she will really focus on the landscaping around the shop. She mentioned that this weekend.....


Bob, I love the whiteboard panel idea. That could be very handy. At work many years ago a guy got some panels from the hardware store that worked great as whiteboards. I may have to look into that. I will put that on my list.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2022 | 10:28 AM
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joe

one tip in the white boards... you CAN use permanent "sharpie" type markers on white boards for things that won't change.. i.e. I had a grid marked off on mine at work with permanent markers...then filled in
the grid with dry erase markers.. a wipe to remove the temp markings and the grid stayed... time to remove the grid ?? rubbing alcohol or dry erase cleaner...

things like fire & police phone numbers or frequently called numbers...notes on things you shouldn't forget (wife's b'day or anniversary) next tool purchases, etc

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Old Aug 1, 2022 | 12:51 PM
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Abe. I'm assuming you're giving Joe a little hard time. I have my shop almost completely lined with corrugated steel and it doesn't have a tinny sound.

Of course I am! What are friends for?
 
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Old Aug 1, 2022 | 01:32 PM
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Abe. it also could be all of the crap I have in my shop that doesn't allow it to sound tinny.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2022 | 02:43 PM
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Abe. it also could be all of the crap I have in my shop that doesn't allow it to sound tinny.
I need to take a picture of my dad's shop. You can barely walk around in it. He doesn't get down to his shop near as much as he used to. About every time I'm there he talks about cleaning things up, but he just gets overwhelmed with all the stuff. So he never even starts. But he can find most anything he needs.
When I was there last we were talking about fans and I saw a fan he had strung up in the air to get out of the way. He has had it for as long as I can remember, at least 40 years now. I'm sure it had been hanging in the shop out of the way for a good 10-15 years. So, I talked him out of it for use in my shop.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2022 | 08:26 PM
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I was bouncing around a lot in the shop today. It was warm and I was climbing up and down ladders and scaffolding a lot.
I got another sheet put up on the roof, that is going smoothly. Removing some of the insulation to get access to the wall lip is annoying. Here is a picture of the extra hands I'm using. In this picture the first sheet is the only one with screws and they are on the right side only. The rods do a great job of holding the tin in place for me. The stringers make it easy to fasten the tin.


I also worked on the wall a bit. I finally got the first piece up. It was a huge pain to get the screws to make it through the metal. Now I have better leverage and they are going in a bit easier.
The tin is pretty easy to cut. I can even use tin snips, but that is slow and the tin gets in the way after getting a ways in. (I tried it when my wife was in the shop so I didn't drive her out with the angle grinder noise.)


 
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Old Aug 15, 2022 | 11:32 AM
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Joe, a drywall lift could help you on the tin for extra hands, harbor freight. cranks right up
 
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Old Jun 30, 2023 | 10:32 PM
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hello community, I will activate the contribution again. I no longer liked the watch in my shop. so something new.




that looks better.
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Old Jul 1, 2023 | 05:54 AM
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