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Old Jul 9, 2022 | 09:04 PM
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It looks like Lowes has the fasteners as well.
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Teks-12-x-2...-Count/3316526

 
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Old Jul 9, 2022 | 11:32 PM
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They are probably cheaper in price also. Teks are a strong screw
 
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Old Jul 10, 2022 | 02:25 AM
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I used them when I put a new wood floor down on my car hauler. They worked great and saved me from drilling mounting holes into the steel floor braces. They do pull down tight and bury their head flush with the wood
 
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Old Jul 10, 2022 | 04:53 AM
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Maybe it's just me and an issue I have with working over my head, but I don't usually have a lot of luck with self tapping screws of any kind in thick steel on ceilings. I used Teks screws for my trailer bed and for putting 2x4s on the side walls of my steel building which worked out great, but I tried them when I needed to put up a few 2x4 stringers for ceiling fans in the steel and I couldn't get enough leverage for them to bite. I ended up drilling 1/8" pilot holes first and then I was able to use the Teks screws.

Of course I was working alone, standing on a extension ladder 25 feet in the air so maybe a scissors lift will be better and provide more leverage but I'm not sure.

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Old Jul 10, 2022 | 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by F100fun
Maybe it's just me and an issue I have with working over my head, but I don't usually have a lot of luck with self tapping screws of any kind in thick steel on ceilings. I used Teks screws for my trailer bed and for putting 2x4s on the side walls of my steel building which worked out great, but I tried them when I needed to put up a few 2x4 stringers for ceiling fans in the steel and I couldn't get enough leverage for them to bite. I ended up drilling 1/8" pilot holes first and then I was able to use the Teks screws.

Of course I was working alone, standing on a extension ladder 25 feet in the air so maybe a scissors lift will be better and provide more leverage but I'm not sure.

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There is different types of tek, or self drilling screws. You may have the wrong ones.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2022 | 12:32 PM
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I would think being on a platform lift where you could lay on your back you could use both arms and use elbow grease like you do if you are standing in front of a wall or kneeling on a deck.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2022 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Marten
There is different types of tek, or self drilling screws. You may have the wrong ones.
Used the same ones I used on the wall, same steel. Wall ones went in fine, I think it's more me than the screw, working above my head with bad shoulders (bursitis in both), can't get the push force over my head.

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Old Jul 10, 2022 | 08:41 PM
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Used the same ones I used on the wall, same steel. Wall ones went in fine, I think it's more me than the screw, working above my head with bad shoulders (bursitis in both), can't get the push force over my head.
For me it's just being a scrawny weakling. I always have a hard time working over my head....but I'm stubborn enough to keep doing things like this.

I was pondering horizontal vs vertical and how horizontal would be feasible without wasting tin.
Since it is a 13' span, I would have to put up an 11' foot panel then cut a 2' section for each row to finish it off. That wouldn't waste tin but it sure would be a lot of cutting.
If I tried to even the panel size I would waste a lot I believe. But smaller panels would sure be easier to handle.

For vertical I figured 3 11' panels would cover the ceiling from one end to the other. It would have a bit of overlap on the center panel, but nothing too bad. Or I could shorten the middle panel if needed. Since it is 13' wide for vertical I would also need to overlap a little more going across or have the last panel only a foot wide.....I'm trying to limit cutting the panels too much, but that might not be the best idea. If I overlapped so they were 22" instead of 24" it would almost exactly fit my span. I still have to get a more accurate measure on the span as well.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2022 | 04:33 PM
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Never mind - I took time to read the discussion in more detail.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2022 | 09:27 PM
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Well after talking with a bunch of enablers at the Ozark Mountain Run I decided to buy a set of scaffolding. I figure I can sell it when I'm done. Also with this I can work at my pace. I can't threaten my membership of the procrastinators club.
Renting a scissor lift would be pretty just as much unless I would get the work done all in one weekend. Yeah, like that would ever happen.
Notice my wife's storage tubs encroaching more and more. Those tubs are stuff from her office while they do a remodel. They have been there for 2 to 3 weeks now.


The two level scaffolding seems a little safer than my insulation guys with a ladder on top of the scaffolding.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2022 | 09:54 PM
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Yes wife’s encroach so I got two Husky cabinets, one for her and one for me. She can us hers for whatever, mines full of camp gear. Nothing but garage stuff gets stored outside those cabinets.
We’ll see how long that works…….
 
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Old Jul 28, 2022 | 10:15 PM
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Yes wife’s encroach so I got two Husky cabinets, one for her and one for me. She can us hers for whatever, mines full of camp gear. Nothing but garage stuff gets stored outside those cabinets.
We’ll see how long that works…….
Good luck with that. Let us know how it works out. I give it about a month.
 
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It’s been three, keeping fingers crossed.
 
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Old Jul 30, 2022 | 05:32 AM
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If you are using that scaffold 2 sections high, be very careful. Those have a habit of flipping over. When you are that high. Also consider putting some sort of guard rails around the outside at the height you are working at. could be something as simple as 2 x 4 wired to the scaffold
Safety is no accident..
 
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Old Jul 30, 2022 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Marten
If you are using that scaffold 2 sections high, be very careful. Those have a habit of flipping over. When you are that high. Also consider putting some sort of guard rails around the outside at the height you are working at. could be something as simple as 2 x 4 wired to the scaffold
Safety is no accident..

also, they make outrigger wheels that attach to the scaffold sides that help prevent tipping....and make sure your floor is swept well, a 1/4" washer can stop you cold.

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