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Old Jan 20, 2021 | 02:24 PM
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I am getting more confused. I just went online. Are you talking about resetting circuit breakers that plug into a fuse block
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, just like a fuse? Or are you talking about circuit breakers that are a little individual box with screw posts
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? I have more questions after this.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2021 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Phil Friedl
I am getting more confused. I just went online. Are you talking about resetting circuit breakers that plug into a fuse block link, just like a fuse? Or are you talking about circuit breakers that are a little individual box with screw posts link? I have more questions after this.
You can use whichever type of circuit breaker you want, or have room for. I think your best bet would be to just get an ATC fuse panel and use the push in circuit breakers instead of fuses. All thermal circuit breakers reset automatically unless they have a reset button.

This is how to set up the headlights: This setup will likely be installed in the engine compartment.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2021 | 01:34 PM
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Sorry to be so dense. I see and understand what you are doing here. But here is where my confusion comes in. With everything I've read, the switch for the lights has to be turned on in order to turn on the relay, The relay then takes over the power 30 for the lights instead of the electricity going through the light switch. So in order for the light switch to be turned on it needs power. Where does the power come from to make the light switch work so it can make the relay work 86? And doesn't the actual light switch also need a circuit breaker or fuse? And in your drawing can one circuit breaker power two relays (It seems to work for my understanding since they won't be used at the same time)? But I thought I read you cannot have two relays on one circuit breaker. Thanks for being patient.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2021 | 03:09 PM
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Sorry to be so dense. I see and understand what you are doing here. But here is where my confusion comes in. With everything I've read, the switch for the lights has to be turned on in order to turn on the relay, The relay then takes over the power 30 for the lights instead of the electricity going through the light switch. So in order for the light switch to be turned on it needs power. Where does the power come from to make the light switch work so it can make the relay work 86? And doesn't the actual light switch also need a circuit breaker or fuse? And in your drawing can one circuit breaker power two relays (It seems to work for my understanding since they won't be used at the same time)? But I thought I read you cannot have two relays on one circuit breaker. Thanks for being patient.
i understand your confusion.

you can run both high beams and low beams from one breaker, I chose to run a breaker for each.

You’re correct that the light switch needs power. In factory wiring that power comes from one of the breakers that’s behind the dash. You can take that power from your unswitched fuse box and run it from a fuse. The diagram that @Mixer man drew up is very good, clearer than mine, so I’d use that one.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2021 | 03:12 PM
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Man, this is a lot of discussion about a truck system that isn't all that complicated to begin with. The truck's electrical system started out from the factory very basic. Why not just go with the factory wiring design. There is nothing in this stock truck that is not basic, lights, ignition and starting system. Nothing more. Simplest route would be to wire it just like it was out of the factory.

 
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Old Jan 21, 2021 | 03:34 PM
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So I feel like I am getting a little more understanding of the whole electrical thing now. Yeah kinda fun. It's so simple it's confusing or it's so confusing it's simple. Okay, follow up question just to learn a little more. Can both fuses and blade style circuit breakers be put into the same fuse box? Thus having some circuits with fuses and some circuits with breakers. I know, basic was where I started...but then the more I read, the more I thought my truck was going to burn up. Thanks, Phil
 
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Old Jan 21, 2021 | 03:59 PM
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It doesn't matter, it's all running with the same voltage.

The major concern is protecting your wire. Circuit breakers and fuses are there to protect your wiring, not necessarily the components that they are wired to. You have to use appropriate circuit protection for they gauge of wire used.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2021 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by bobj49f2
It doesn't matter, it's all running with the same voltage.

The major concern is protecting your wire. Circuit breakers and fuses are there to protect your wiring, not necessarily the components that they are wired to. You have to use appropriate circuit protection for they gauge of wire used.
This is so true, and cannot be over emphasized. The circuit breakers / fuses protect the circuit and wires ONLY, when the component fails.

Phil, your light switch already has power - don't worry about it.

And I agree, this is becoming way more complex than it needs to be.
 
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