2020-2022 Super Duty FORScan Spreadsheet
#166
#170
#171
Global windows close
New to this FORScan stuff. Went from a 2013 F150 FX4 to a 2020 F250 Tremor 7.3L.
Anyways messed with most everything seen here that I wanted/understood what the change was a week ago and all good. One thing I wanted was windows closed. Tried the as built notes from 2017-2019 sheets with no luck/getting not compatible errors. So decided to adventure on my own.
Found the combo. It took 4 changes all in English.
Global windows close (takes 4 actions)
BCM (English) Global windows close (Remote).
DDM (English) Global windows close (Enabled).
IPC (English) Global windows close (Enabled). This added a check box option in settings/advanced settings/vehicle/windows for closing them.
PDM (English) Global windows close (Enabled). (Do this one and not DDM and only the passenger window closed. Had me scratching my head for a bit.)
I did see some options here and there in the English files about the rear windows but didn't mess with any to see what happens. It would be a rare occasion for the rears to ever be down.
I sure wish there as a way to over ride the mirror spot lights in motion but as far as I can tell/have read the only way to do that is altering the wiring.
Tom
Anyways messed with most everything seen here that I wanted/understood what the change was a week ago and all good. One thing I wanted was windows closed. Tried the as built notes from 2017-2019 sheets with no luck/getting not compatible errors. So decided to adventure on my own.
Found the combo. It took 4 changes all in English.
Global windows close (takes 4 actions)
BCM (English) Global windows close (Remote).
DDM (English) Global windows close (Enabled).
IPC (English) Global windows close (Enabled). This added a check box option in settings/advanced settings/vehicle/windows for closing them.
PDM (English) Global windows close (Enabled). (Do this one and not DDM and only the passenger window closed. Had me scratching my head for a bit.)
I did see some options here and there in the English files about the rear windows but didn't mess with any to see what happens. It would be a rare occasion for the rears to ever be down.
I sure wish there as a way to over ride the mirror spot lights in motion but as far as I can tell/have read the only way to do that is altering the wiring.
Tom
#173
The PCM relearn will force PCM to relearn tire size and gear ratio from BCM so if you have that function listed as the top item in FORScan programming screen I'd try it before resorting to the dealership. I don't have a '20 SD to test with so I'm just spouting what works on the F150.
I'd use the BCM (ASBUILT format) programming screen using the addresses below for tire size and then try the PCM relearn. If it causes a CEL still after the PCM relearn then revert your asbuilt values back to stock and maybe try the dealership route.
726-15-01 xxxx xxxx **xx
726-15-02 **xx xxxx xxxx
I'd use the BCM (ASBUILT format) programming screen using the addresses below for tire size and then try the PCM relearn. If it causes a CEL still after the PCM relearn then revert your asbuilt values back to stock and maybe try the dealership route.
726-15-01 xxxx xxxx **xx
726-15-02 **xx xxxx xxxx
Do I convert mm from decimal to hex and then put the first two digits in the 15-01 line and then the second two in the 15-02 line?
Edit: I tried using the plan English BCM setting box and it corrected my speedo, but I couldn't get the persistent p0160 code to clear with PCM/TCM relearns. I reverted back and it cleared. Right this second, it looks like 37s are too big to get it to play ball. I'll try modifying the as-built lines when I get some direction on how to calculate that and see what happens.
#174
#176
Not with forscan at the moment. If someone doesn’t figure it out soon, I may start braining on how to go the in-line adapter route.. It would be a similar situation to the wheel speed sensor thing you plug in behind the dash cluster. I hate to go the hardware route as opposed to software.
#177
I want to thank LivnItUp, EpicCowLick and all the other members who have tested and contributed to the ForScan sheet efforts
Since there are some differences (and similarities) in the 2020MY I am starting a new ForScan sheet.
As of now the info is "somewhat limited", but I'm sure there is additional info out there.
If you are new to ForScan please take the time to read and watch LivnItUp tutorial. LivItUp ForScan Info It will answer over 90% of the basic questions.
If you have info you would like to share, please do so.
I am hopeful that we will be able to continue drilling into each module.
Enjoy
2020 Super Duty ForScan Sheet
ZooDad
Since there are some differences (and similarities) in the 2020MY I am starting a new ForScan sheet.
As of now the info is "somewhat limited", but I'm sure there is additional info out there.
If you are new to ForScan please take the time to read and watch LivnItUp tutorial. LivItUp ForScan Info It will answer over 90% of the basic questions.
If you have info you would like to share, please do so.
I am hopeful that we will be able to continue drilling into each module.
Enjoy
2020 Super Duty ForScan Sheet
ZooDad
#178
It appears to be a 2020 issue.
ZooDad
#179
1) If you have 3.55 gears or lower, change the gearing in ForScan to 3.31 gears, or maybe even 3.21's or 3.07's if it'll let you.
2) Then change your tire size (by circumference, right?) to a size that nets you an equivalent final gearing to having 3.55 gears with 37s.
For example, with my 3.55 gears, if I make the truck think it has 3.31 gears, and 2753 mm circumference tires (34.5" diameter), this would be the same final drive ratio as 3.55s with 37s. I don't know if the cause for throwing a CEL is if the tire size number reaches a threshold, but if it is, then 2753 mm is smaller than the Tremor's 35's at 2793 mm circumference. Note this example is using a true 37" tall tire...it could be fine-tuned for a 36.77" diameter (2934 mm circ) NRG, for example. If the speedo calculation and mileage calculations are just pulling values from the various inputs (I'd be surprised if they're not), then this might have a chance at working...
Anybody tried this? Thoughts or insight?
#180
I don't know if it would work, and I haven't heard of anyone trying it yet, but I'm still wondering if you could get away with something like this:
1) If you have 3.55 gears or lower, change the gearing in ForScan to 3.31 gears, or maybe even 3.21's or 3.07's if it'll let you.
2) Then change your tire size (by circumference, right?) to a size that nets you an equivalent final gearing to having 3.55 gears with 37s.
For example, with my 3.55 gears, if I make the truck think it has 3.31 gears, and 2753 mm circumference tires (34.5" diameter), this would be the same final drive ratio as 3.55s with 37s. I don't know if the cause for throwing a CEL is if the tire size number reaches a threshold, but if it is, then 2753 mm is smaller than the Tremor's 35's at 2793 mm circumference. Note this example is using a true 37" tall tire...it could be fine-tuned for a 36.77" diameter (2934 mm circ) NRG, for example. If the speedo calculation and mileage calculations are just pulling values from the various inputs (I'd be surprised if they're not), then this might have a chance at working...
Anybody tried this? Thoughts or insight?
1) If you have 3.55 gears or lower, change the gearing in ForScan to 3.31 gears, or maybe even 3.21's or 3.07's if it'll let you.
2) Then change your tire size (by circumference, right?) to a size that nets you an equivalent final gearing to having 3.55 gears with 37s.
For example, with my 3.55 gears, if I make the truck think it has 3.31 gears, and 2753 mm circumference tires (34.5" diameter), this would be the same final drive ratio as 3.55s with 37s. I don't know if the cause for throwing a CEL is if the tire size number reaches a threshold, but if it is, then 2753 mm is smaller than the Tremor's 35's at 2793 mm circumference. Note this example is using a true 37" tall tire...it could be fine-tuned for a 36.77" diameter (2934 mm circ) NRG, for example. If the speedo calculation and mileage calculations are just pulling values from the various inputs (I'd be surprised if they're not), then this might have a chance at working...
Anybody tried this? Thoughts or insight?
That said, the guys that did my Carli say they have had good luck with the hypertech unit in-line in the IPC harness. The truck goes in Monday to put that in.