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Old Jul 3, 2019 | 08:23 PM
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Ya have to stop assuming you need parts. Lets get to where you are when you get some info to diagnose what it is. Get the dongle and Forscan worked out and plugged in. Then get some readings. Jumping to Hpop is horse in front of wagon.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2019 | 11:23 AM
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Here is what I scanned. The foseal one worked.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2019 | 11:32 AM
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Sorry I thought it scanned everything at once..newb...
 
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Old Jul 5, 2019 | 12:08 PM
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At lunch but seen post.
Top of my head ecm fried. Had simular prob about 2 years ago. Truck just died left me on side off the road. I would like Bismic or Yahiko to take a look at that data. They have more intense knowledge than I do.I'll see if i can get there attention.
Really good guys.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2019 | 12:17 PM
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Chris Wilson - Can't really decipher that file. It comes up as a single paragraph. Could you post it as a pdf?
 
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=== Log ===

(OK) [12:19:50.611] Key On Engine Off On Demand Self-Test has been started

(WARN) [12:19:53.792] Test completed, found DTCs: P1000, P1705, P2285

(OK) [12:28:16.514] KOEO Injector Electrical Self Test has been started

(OK) [12:28:54.498] Test completed successfully, no errors found

(ERR) [12:29:10.040] KOER Glow Plug Monitoring Self Test has been cancelled by operator

(OK) [12:29:26.479] Key On Engine Off On Demand Self-Test has been started

(WARN) [12:29:38.005] Test completed, found DTCs: P0706, P0707, P0713

(OK) [12:30:27.404] Read system monitor status has been started

(OK) [12:30:27.549] Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) Status: Off

(WARN) [12:30:27.550] Misfire monitoring: Incomplete

(WARN) [12:30:27.550] Fuel system monitoring: Not supported

(OK) [12:30:27.550] Comprehensive component monitoring: Complete

(WARN) [12:30:27.550] Catalyst monitoring : Not supported

(WARN) [12:30:27.550] Heated catalyst monitoring : Not supported

(WARN) [12:30:27.550] Evaporative system monitoring: Not supported

(WARN) [12:30:27.551] Secondary air system monitoring: Not supported

(WARN) [12:30:27.551] A/C system refrigerant monitoring: Not supported

(WARN) [12:30:27.551] Oxygen sensor monitoring: Not supported

(WARN) [12:30:27.551] Oxygen sensor heater monitoring: Not supported

(WARN) [12:30:27.551] EGR system monitoring: Incomplete

(OK) [12:30:33.772] Test completed successfully, no errors found

(OK) [12:30:48.566] On Demand Self-Test has been started

(WARN) [12:30:56.300] Test completed, found DTCs: B1342, B1327, B1319, B1352

===

=== DTC ===

B1342 - ECU internal fault


Diagnostic Trouble Code details


ECU internal fault


-------------- Possible Causes ------------





Internal microprocessor failure.


Refer to the workshop manual for further diagnosis and repair.



B1327 - Passenger's Door Ajar Circuit Failure


Diagnostic Trouble Code details


Passenger's Door Ajar Circuit Failure


--- Possible Causes --------

This code can be generated by:


-Open/Short circuit between Door Ajar Warning Lamp and Generic Electronic Module

- Open/Short circuit between Door Ajar Warning Lamp and power circuit

- Suspect Door Ajar Warning Lamp

- Suspect Generic Electronic Module.



B1319 - Drivers door ajar circuit failure


Diagnostic Trouble Code details


Drivers door ajar circuit failure


--- Possible Causes --------


-Short to GND between Door Ajar Switch & Driver Door Module


-Suspect Door Ajar Switch Driver Door Module



B1352 - Ignition key in circuit fault


Diagnostic Trouble Code details


Ignition key in circuit fault



===

 
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Old Jul 5, 2019 | 12:24 PM
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I posted that for ya Bismic. I was able to open file.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2019 | 12:32 PM
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Heres the second one he sent.
(OK) [12:19:50.611] Key On Engine Off On Demand Self-Test has been started

(WARN) [12:19:53.792] Test completed, found DTCs: P1000, P1705, P2285

===

=== DTC ===

P1000 - On-Board Diagnostic (OBD) Systems Readiness Test Not Complete


Diagnostic Trouble Code details


Check of all systems is not complete since last memory clear.


--Possible Causes--

- The vehicle is new from the factory and has not yet been through a complete OBD Drive Cycle.

- The battery or PCM has been disconnected.

- An OBD monitor failure had occurred prior to completion of an OBD Drive Cycle.

- The PCM DTCs have been cleared as part of a service process.


Note: The only way P1000 can be cleared (removed) from memory is when all of the OBD monitors have been successfully completed during normal vehicle operation.


P1000 cannot be cleared from the PCM when: 1. The thermostat is stuck open and a DTC is not generated. 2. There is an open VSS circuit and a DTC is not generated. 3. If the vehicle has a Power Take Off (PTO), the circuit is shorted to VPWR or B+, or the PTO is ON during Self-test.


The purpose of the Diagnostic Trouble Code DTC P1000 is to indicate that not all of the On Board Diagnostics OBD monitors have yet been successfully completed. You may also refer to the OBD Drive Cycle defined under the Powertrain Control/Emission Diagnosis Manual-Diagnostic Methods or the Owner's Manual.


Remember: It is not necessary to remove P1000 from the Powertrain Control Module PCM by driving the vehicle.



P1705 - TR Sensor Out Of Self Test Range


Diagnostic Trouble Code details


TR Sensor Out Of Self Test Range


Mis-adjusted linkage or TR sensor.


This DTC may be caused by :


Incorrect gear selection during Self-Test.


Open circuit.


TR sensor


Harness wiring


Transmission Control Module


Inspect connectors for signs of damage, water ingress, corrosion, etc.



P2285 - Injection Control Pressure Sensor Circuit Low


Diagnostic Trouble Code details


Injection Control Pressure Sensor Circuit Low


This DTC may be caused by :


Open circuit.


Short to Ground


Possible causes are:


Harness wiring


ICP Sensor


PCM


Inspect connectors for signs of damage, water ingress, corrosion, etc.



===

(OK) [12:19:50.611] Key On Engine Off On Demand Self-Test has been started

(WARN) [12:19:53.792] Test completed, found DTCs: P1000, P1705, P2285

===

=== DTC ===

P1000 - On-Board Diagnostic (OBD) Systems Readiness Test Not Complete


Diagnostic Trouble Code details


Check of all systems is not complete since last memory clear.


--Possible Causes--

- The vehicle is new from the factory and has not yet been through a complete OBD Drive Cycle.

- The battery or PCM has been disconnected.

- An OBD monitor failure had occurred prior to completion of an OBD Drive Cycle.

- The PCM DTCs have been cleared as part of a service process.


Note: The only way P1000 can be cleared (removed) from memory is when all of the OBD monitors have been successfully completed during normal vehicle operation.


P1000 cannot be cleared from the PCM when: 1. The thermostat is stuck open and a DTC is not generated. 2. There is an open VSS circuit and a DTC is not generated. 3. If the vehicle has a Power Take Off (PTO), the circuit is shorted to VPWR or B+, or the PTO is ON during Self-test.


The purpose of the Diagnostic Trouble Code DTC P1000 is to indicate that not all of the On Board Diagnostics OBD monitors have yet been successfully completed. You may also refer to the OBD Drive Cycle defined under the Powertrain Control/Emission Diagnosis Manual-Diagnostic Methods or the Owner's Manual.


Remember: It is not necessary to remove P1000 from the Powertrain Control Module PCM by driving the vehicle.



P1705 - TR Sensor Out Of Self Test Range


Diagnostic Trouble Code details


TR Sensor Out Of Self Test Range


Mis-adjusted linkage or TR sensor.


This DTC may be caused by :


Incorrect gear selection during Self-Test.


Open circuit.


TR sensor


Harness wiring


Transmission Control Module


Inspect connectors for signs of damage, water ingress, corrosion, etc.



P2285 - Injection Control Pressure Sensor Circuit Low


Diagnostic Trouble Code details


Injection Control Pressure Sensor Circuit Low


This DTC may be caused by :


Open circuit.


Short to Ground


Possible causes are:


Harness wiring


ICP Sensor


PCM


Inspect connectors for signs of damage, water ingress, corrosion, etc.

(OK) [12:19:50.611] Key On Engine Off On Demand Self-Test has been started

(WARN) [12:19:53.792] Test completed, found DTCs: P1000, P1705, P2285

===

=== DTC ===

P1000 - On-Board Diagnostic (OBD) Systems Readiness Test Not Complete


Diagnostic Trouble Code details


Check of all systems is not complete since last memory clear.


--Possible Causes--

- The vehicle is new from the factory and has not yet been through a complete OBD Drive Cycle.

- The battery or PCM has been disconnected.

- An OBD monitor failure had occurred prior to completion of an OBD Drive Cycle.

- The PCM DTCs have been cleared as part of a service process.


Note: The only way P1000 can be cleared (removed) from memory is when all of the OBD monitors have been successfully completed during normal vehicle operation.


P1000 cannot be cleared from the PCM when: 1. The thermostat is stuck open and a DTC is not generated. 2. There is an open VSS circuit and a DTC is not generated. 3. If the vehicle has a Power Take Off (PTO), the circuit is shorted to VPWR or B+, or the PTO is ON during Self-test.


The purpose of the Diagnostic Trouble Code DTC P1000 is to indicate that not all of the On Board Diagnostics OBD monitors have yet been successfully completed. You may also refer to the OBD Drive Cycle defined under the Powertrain Control/Emission Diagnosis Manual-Diagnostic Methods or the Owner's Manual.


Remember: It is not necessary to remove P1000 from the Powertrain Control Module PCM by driving the vehicle.



P1705 - TR Sensor Out Of Self Test Range


Diagnostic Trouble Code details


TR Sensor Out Of Self Test Range


Mis-adjusted linkage or TR sensor.


This DTC may be caused by :


Incorrect gear selection during Self-Test.


Open circuit.


TR sensor


Harness wiring


Transmission Control Module


Inspect connectors for signs of damage, water ingress, corrosion, etc.



P2285 - Injection Control Pressure Sensor Circuit Low


Diagnostic Trouble Code details


Injection Control Pressure Sensor Circuit Low


This DTC may be caused by :


Open circuit.


Short to Ground


Possible causes are:


Harness wiring


ICP Sensor


PCM


Inspect connectors for signs of damage, water ingress, corrosion, etc.


(OK) [12:19:50.611] Key On Engine Off On Demand Self-Test has been started

(WARN) [12:19:53.792] Test completed, found DTCs: P1000, P1705, P2285

===

=== DTC ===

P1000 - On-Board Diagnostic (OBD) Systems Readiness Test Not Complete


Diagnostic Trouble Code details


Check of all systems is not complete since last memory clear.


--Possible Causes--

- The vehicle is new from the factory and has not yet been through a complete OBD Drive Cycle.

- The battery or PCM has been disconnected.

- An OBD monitor failure had occurred prior to completion of an OBD Drive Cycle.

- The PCM DTCs have been cleared as part of a service process.


Note: The only way P1000 can be cleared (removed) from memory is when all of the OBD monitors have been successfully completed during normal vehicle operation.


P1000 cannot be cleared from the PCM when: 1. The thermostat is stuck open and a DTC is not generated. 2. There is an open VSS circuit and a DTC is not generated. 3. If the vehicle has a Power Take Off (PTO), the circuit is shorted to VPWR or B+, or the PTO is ON during Self-test.


The purpose of the Diagnostic Trouble Code DTC P1000 is to indicate that not all of the On Board Diagnostics OBD monitors have yet been successfully completed. You may also refer to the OBD Drive Cycle defined under the Powertrain Control/Emission Diagnosis Manual-Diagnostic Methods or the Owner's Manual.


Remember: It is not necessary to remove P1000 from the Powertrain Control Module PCM by driving the vehicle.



P1705 - TR Sensor Out Of Self Test Range


Diagnostic Trouble Code details


TR Sensor Out Of Self Test Range


Mis-adjusted linkage or TR sensor.


This DTC may be caused by :


Incorrect gear selection during Self-Test.


Open circuit.


TR sensor


Harness wiring


Transmission Control Module


Inspect connectors for signs of damage, water ingress, corrosion, etc.



P2285 - Injection Control Pressure Sensor Circuit Low


Diagnostic Trouble Code details


Injection Control Pressure Sensor Circuit Low


This DTC may be caused by :


Open circuit.


Short to Ground


Possible causes are:


Harness wiring


ICP Sensor


PCM


Inspect connectors for signs of damage, water ingress, corrosion, etc.



===


 
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Old Jul 5, 2019 | 12:38 PM
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Reps to you Visurveyor (when I can again)! And thanks for the kind words.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2019 | 12:52 PM
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Mark my name is Dave. i just trying to help this guy out. i know a little about what is going on with these motors but you and Sean are really knowledgeable about these things. more than i think i will ever be. but we just like the trucks and helping..
 
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Old Jul 5, 2019 | 01:00 PM
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Looks like:
The P2285 is what you get when you try to start w/ the ICP disconnected. Most likely not an issue unless you never intentionally tried to start it w/ it unplugged.

P0706, P0707, P0713, and P1705 and Transmission Range Sensor "A" Circuit (PRNDL Input) - Indicating a sensor A issue unless you didn't select the right gear during the self test.

B1342 - (ECU) internal fault Enhanced Powertrain CAN.
You need to know which module reported the code. It means an internal module failure and it could be set by the following modules: 4X4 Control Module, ABS Module, HVAC Module, Instrument Cluster, Parking Aid Module, Restraints Control Module, Trailer Brake Control Module and the Vehicle Security Module.

B1319 and B1327 - Passenger and Driver door chime circuit failure. Maybe these alarms have been disconnected? This could explain the code below.

B1352 - Ignition key in circuit failure HEC . Sets if the instrument cluster detects an open or short to ground on circuit. Usually it's the little switch on the ignition cylinder. Unless your key in ignition chime is not working or is acting up you could essentially ignore this code. Can come from disabled door chimes.

I can't recall which module contains the door chime operation, but I think I remember it is in the Hybrid Electronic Module (HEC), which is the Instrument Cluster. You may not have a bad cluster if someone has been messing w/ the door ajar and "Key in Ignition" wiring.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2019 | 01:07 PM
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If the PCM doesn't know what gear it is in, then it won't crank! That is the first thing to address. It is probably a wiring short or the sensor. Hopefully it isn't a TCM (which is part of the PCM) issue.

Once you have resolved the PRND issue, hopefully it will crank w/ the key. If not, then you may have an issue with the ignition itself, its wiring, or maybe even the relay (even though it clicks).

After all that, you still may have a hot start issue, but getting it to crank w/ the key is the first thing to address.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2019 | 01:31 PM
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I was messing with the icp plug and never checked to see if I plugged it back in. Torque pro wasnt reading anything on it so I was unplugging and plugging it to see if it was a connection issue. I never replaced that pigtail when I replaced that sensor.

I also seen those codes for the doors and yeah the side cargo door and drivers doors were open.

Before I started this post I did test starting in neutral and park to no avail. I've had a trans range sensor go bad before but not on this.

I'll be down at the garage again tomorrow and will check that plug.
 
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The plug could very well be in. The code doesn't clear itself immediately.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2019 | 08:43 PM
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With what you said about the shop hacking up the harness I think I would start by checking for any broken or mis-spliced wires.
Also there is a harness that runs down the back of the trans. and that might be worth reaching up from the ground to feel for and
also check where the harness enters on the transmission right side. It passes through the case and into the valve body. The
easy one to check (well maybe not in the E-series) is the plug on the PCM. Make sure all three are fully plugged into the connectors.
 
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