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Cargo Master
Joined: Oct 2005
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From: WNY
Unless Ford goes with really high gearing in their 10 speed I just don't see how they don't absolutely kick butt when it comes to pulling ability.
The GM 10 speed has a slight mechanical advantage over Fords 6r140 even with the 3.42 rear, but if Fords 10 speed is similarly geard to the GM but keeps the 3.55, 4.10, and 4.30 gearing then the Ford advantage is huge
The GM 10 speed has a slight mechanical advantage over Fords 6r140 even with the 3.42 rear, but if Fords 10 speed is similarly geard to the GM but keeps the 3.55, 4.10, and 4.30 gearing then the Ford advantage is huge
Ill be ordering the 3:31 gear set knowing the 2020 torque increase will make a big difference.
Tuned
Joined: Dec 2011
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Agreed. I rented a car with adaptive cruise control and hated it. It grossly over-reacted. In heavier traffic it would brake if someone pulled in even 200 feet ahead. That would catch the car behind off guard because nobody would normally brake that way. Then people get PO'd and pull around you then back back in front; so the car brakes AGAIN. It is a hazard in anything but light traffic. It would keep going slower and slower as people pulled in. And it was not like people were "cutting me off".
Tuned
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I'm certainly old enough which is why I'm more than satisfied with 430 lb. ft. of torque from my current 6.2 gasser pulling 9,000 lbs. I bought a new F250/7.5 gasser back in '88 and was pulling 14,000 lb. doubles with it. The 7.5 EFI back then had 390 lb.ft. of torque. The 7.3 diesel only had 345 lb. ft.
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Fleet Mechanic
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From: Green Springs, OH
Right on the money there. ^^^^. Kids these days doubting there was efi in 88. I was 7 years old in 88. However I know my trucks. Heck gm had tbi in their trucks in 87. Ford was behind on the efi thing I guess by a year.
Fleet Owner
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From: Brentwood,CA
This is hilarious, I mean EFI didn't come out until Wifi and iPhones. Everyone knows how prehistoric the 80's and the 90's were. I mean OBD1 and OBD2 were a little tricky back then with points distributors and manual chokes still rampant
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Toyota Celica. Cadillac Seville. and various models of Nissan, Mercedes Benz, Volvo, Saab, Jaguar, and others had fuel injection in the 1970s. I owned a couple of those 70's era fuel injection cars. Managed to keep one of them around for 40 years.
VW had fuel injection in the 1960s
Chrysler had fuel injection in the late 1950s... the 1958 Plymouth Fury.
AMC, which decades later was bought by Chrysler, is said to have first commercialized fuel injection in the US automotive market with the 1957 Rambler.
That's a fair amount of time before the '90's/
VW had fuel injection in the 1960s
Chrysler had fuel injection in the late 1950s... the 1958 Plymouth Fury.
AMC, which decades later was bought by Chrysler, is said to have first commercialized fuel injection in the US automotive market with the 1957 Rambler.
That's a fair amount of time before the '90's/
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Toyota Celica. Cadillac Seville. and various models of Nissan, Mercedes Benz, Volvo, Saab, Jaguar, and others had fuel injection in the 1970s. I owned a couple of those 70's era fuel injection cars. Managed to keep one of them around for 40 years.
VW had fuel injection in the 1960s
Chrysler had fuel injection in the late 1950s... the 1958 Plymouth Fury.
AMC, which decades later was bought by Chrysler, is said to have first commercialized fuel injection in the US automotive market with the 1957 Rambler.
That's a fair amount of time before the '90's/
VW had fuel injection in the 1960s
Chrysler had fuel injection in the late 1950s... the 1958 Plymouth Fury.
AMC, which decades later was bought by Chrysler, is said to have first commercialized fuel injection in the US automotive market with the 1957 Rambler.
That's a fair amount of time before the '90's/
Fleet Owner
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From: Brentwood,CA
Logistics Pro
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From: Ohio
Let's not forget about the eeekkkkkk systems! Had an 83 Tbird with the EECIII computer and TBI injection. Primitive, but reasonably reliable.
