2020 revealed!
Fleet Mechanic
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From: Phelan CA
Mountain Pass
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Right???
With people talking about E.D. meds and all....lol!!
All kidding aside...
After owning a 6.7 PSD for nearly 7 years, I get it. It did tow easier than anything I ever owned.
I was hoping for higher numbers on the 7.3, but I'll reserve judgement for when I see actual real world performance.
Waaay back when, the 7.3L PSD was, on paper, far superior to the 2 valve V10.
When Trailer Life pulled exact trailers up a grade there was virtually no difference in performance. (No, I'm not talking about fuel economy....there I concede there is no comparison)
Cargo Master
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From: WNY
For the rest of us, Maybe HD towing trucks are better off by not using gasoline power.......says everybody in the towing universe.
Junior User
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From: California
This is kinda what I'm thinking but I think the plug might be already in the 2020. I think I'm just going to order it to be safe. I can always put it on another trailer.
Senior User
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From: Somewhere west of Arizona
Funny that just 20 short years ago the dieselers were ridiculing the gassers when their new 7.3 diesel had a whopping 225 hp and 450 lb. feet of torque. They thought they could tear the tongue off of any trailer you threw behind it. Some things will never change.
Not sure why you feel so compelled to convince others that the diesel is the only logical choice no matter what their personal needs are. Or is it you're still trying to convince yourself why you sprung for the diesel?
Cargo Master
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From: WNY
Here's my response to your post in the other 7.3 thread:
Funny that just 20 short years ago the dieselers were ridiculing the gassers when their new 7.3 diesel had a whopping 225 hp and 450 lb. feet of torque. They thought they could tear the tongue off of any trailer you threw behind it. Some things will never change.
Not sure why you feel so compelled to convince others that the diesel is the only logical choice no matter what their personal needs are. Or is it you're still trying to convince yourself why you sprung for the diesel?
Funny that just 20 short years ago the dieselers were ridiculing the gassers when their new 7.3 diesel had a whopping 225 hp and 450 lb. feet of torque. They thought they could tear the tongue off of any trailer you threw behind it. Some things will never change.
Not sure why you feel so compelled to convince others that the diesel is the only logical choice no matter what their personal needs are. Or is it you're still trying to convince yourself why you sprung for the diesel?
Snarky comments and replies set aside, I couldn’t care less what someone else’s budget is or that they drive.
I'm pointing out the power differences.... don’t confuse what you are getting. One option is probably three times the money and twice the complexity and twice the power. In the big overall picture, maybe less than a 10% overall upgrade. Which one is right for a person is obviously at one's own budget and discretion.
I currently own a gas truck because I use it to plow snow at my business and prefer a light weight engine with my 1,200 lb plow attached...and I bought it new at $1,500 under invoice and a large rebate. In hindsight, I wish I would have just bought the D-max for it because it's a dog and struggles towing my boat..
I wont make that mistake again. JMO.
I'll be keeping it as a winter truck.
Cargo Master
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From: WNY
It’s all about outboards today. Obviously outboard power and surf boats don’t go together, but marine engines belong to GM. Both Merc and Volvo Penta are strictly GM based, and with outboard technology being invested in developed as popularity grows, I don’t see that changing.
Our boat uses the new VP Gen 5 6.2L 430 aluminum block engine.
Our boat uses the new VP Gen 5 6.2L 430 aluminum block engine.
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From: Somewhere west of Arizona
Oh, not at all! No need to buy a full glass when half a glass will do. I knew exactly what I was getting when I bought my 6.2 even knowing that the 7.3 was coming out later this year. My current TT is about 8,500 pounds wet and the 6.2 is more than adequate. I bought the F250 for the payload capacity, not the pulling power. The TW on the TT is about 1,100 pounds plus several hundred pounds of gear and passengers in the TV.
Logistics Pro
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Some of you need to catch up with today's modern gassers. Getting 700+ HP/Torque in OEM trim is not any big effort, it also comes with a warranty and hwy mpg runs in the low 20's and 0-60 under 3.5 s down into the high 2 sec range. Stop off at your local tuner like Hennessy and drive out with over 1000 HP/Torque number along with a warranty and decent mpg.
Come on guys keep up with the times...I am old school and remember well the ballyhoo over engines that could produce 1 hp per cubic inch and how we all awed at the Chevy 327 300 hp. Yes I was there summer of 66 doing battle in IHRA against some guy out in Santa Monica Ca for top dog in C sports in my 64 Corvette 327 375 hp. We traded top spots almost every weekend that summer, he finally came out on top with a 12:29 on the 1320 and my best was 12:32. I told him I would be gunning for him in the summer of '67! Little did I know I was half right in the summer of '67 I was gunning on the DMZ of Vietnam.
Come on guys keep up with the times...I am old school and remember well the ballyhoo over engines that could produce 1 hp per cubic inch and how we all awed at the Chevy 327 300 hp. Yes I was there summer of 66 doing battle in IHRA against some guy out in Santa Monica Ca for top dog in C sports in my 64 Corvette 327 375 hp. We traded top spots almost every weekend that summer, he finally came out on top with a 12:29 on the 1320 and my best was 12:32. I told him I would be gunning for him in the summer of '67! Little did I know I was half right in the summer of '67 I was gunning on the DMZ of Vietnam.
Cargo Master
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From: Door Cty/Florida
Bruce
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I think we should all be grateful we have great choices gas/diesel from all manufactures, Ford being my favorite. The numbers all are putting out are outstanding. I have a diesel 6.7 and towing my G.D. 2250RK loaded is a joke. The truck laughs at any hill I put in front of it and ask how fast do you want to go. For me the 6.2 may have done the job but I got sucked in to the 900+ lbs. of torque. I made the mistake of buying a F250 and now we want a small 5th wheel and I would be a couple hundred pounds over capacity. The 7.3 in a F350 might be the right choice for a new G.D. 29RS.
Fleet Mechanic
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From: Phelan CA
Let me guess, you are trying to convince yourself that you are happy with a glass half full.
Snarky comments and replies set aside, I couldn’t care less what someone else’s budget is or that they drive.
I'm pointing out the power differences.... don’t confuse what you are getting. One option is probably three times the money and twice the complexity and twice the power. In the big overall picture, maybe less than a 10% overall upgrade. Which one is right for a person is obviously at one's own budget and discretion.
Snarky comments and replies set aside, I couldn’t care less what someone else’s budget is or that they drive.
I'm pointing out the power differences.... don’t confuse what you are getting. One option is probably three times the money and twice the complexity and twice the power. In the big overall picture, maybe less than a 10% overall upgrade. Which one is right for a person is obviously at one's own budget and discretion.
POWER IS WORK DONE OVER TIME.
Moving a load is "work". Torque is work.
Accelerating a load is given by "power".
PLEASE QUIT CONFUSING TORQUE WITH POWER.
Thank you.
Cargo Master
Joined: Oct 2005
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From: WNY
97% of the “power”.
I’d love to see a truck salesman try to spin that one to a towing customer with a straight face.
In the real world, there is no confusion to what the definition of “power” is. You can spin the definition to something more scientific if that works for you, but in the end, no one cares how you cut it, it’s still about performance
Let’s try this.. Hook a small load, big load, whatever load to both and run whatever test you want.. drag race, quarter mile, pikes peak..whatever. Hook up, stomp the pedal from a dead stop, or a roll on at any speed and let’s see how that 97% spin sells to an onlooker when the gasser with 3% less power isn’t in sight of the finish line.
I totally agree with Unit. Everyone has their own particular needs. No need for me or anyone else to pick out your vehicle specs.
I'm driving a gasser right now.