Psyclopse's "up from the ashes" build thread.
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That's the right plug, Watcher, but it looks like they're refering to it by it's part number. I'm needing the "C-number" as it shows in wiring diagrams. For some reason, I don't seem to have a diagram that shows it.
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Only one I can find is C1MC24. That may not be the number you're looking for. I think the service manual drawings are different from what we use on the engineering drawings.
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So I just took apart the C101 and C1043 connectors on my PICKUP TRUCK (99 Super Duty with the V8). Here's what I found:
1) At C101 on the engine bay harness, there ARE wires on pins 3 and 4, but on the engine harness, these pins are empty. Pins 3 and 4 would be Injector 9 and Injector 10 on V10 models.
2) At C1043 on the engine bay harness, there are 10 pins wired, where there are only 8 pins wired on the engine harness. The two extra wired pins are 5 and 6, which are C.O.P.s 4 and 9 on the 2000 Excursion, which leads me to believe that the pin-out changed from early 99 SD to 2000 Excursion, BUT- since the only thing C1043 carries is C.O.P. wires and O2 wires, it's almost a certainty that the two extra wires are the two additional C.O.P.s for a V10.
Adding to what I found, when you see listings for the (discontinued) engine bay harnesses, they never differentiate between V8 and V10- they simply list gas and diesel.
What I'm getting at is this-
I am 98% certain that V8 and V10 ENGINE BAY harnesses are the same, with maybe some pin-out differences (and that may be a year thing, rather than an engine size thing).
I'm now going to broaden my search to include V8 Excursion engine bay harnesses...
1) At C101 on the engine bay harness, there ARE wires on pins 3 and 4, but on the engine harness, these pins are empty. Pins 3 and 4 would be Injector 9 and Injector 10 on V10 models.
2) At C1043 on the engine bay harness, there are 10 pins wired, where there are only 8 pins wired on the engine harness. The two extra wired pins are 5 and 6, which are C.O.P.s 4 and 9 on the 2000 Excursion, which leads me to believe that the pin-out changed from early 99 SD to 2000 Excursion, BUT- since the only thing C1043 carries is C.O.P. wires and O2 wires, it's almost a certainty that the two extra wires are the two additional C.O.P.s for a V10.
Adding to what I found, when you see listings for the (discontinued) engine bay harnesses, they never differentiate between V8 and V10- they simply list gas and diesel.
What I'm getting at is this-
I am 98% certain that V8 and V10 ENGINE BAY harnesses are the same, with maybe some pin-out differences (and that may be a year thing, rather than an engine size thing).
I'm now going to broaden my search to include V8 Excursion engine bay harnesses...
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OOHHhhhhhh--that was badddd lol!
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As you can probably tell from the pic above, the driver side front fender cladding was ruined by the fire (it's already went out with the trash). A guy on a Facebook Excursion page has first dibs on the passenger side front door piece. The rest is available though.
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I stumbled onto this thread while I was googling for wiring harnesses, I sat right here and read through all eight pages and just had to join this site! I'm cheerin' for ya, I can't wait to see you start it up!
I'm in almost the same boat -- I have a 2000 V10 4x4, I don't really know any backstory because it came from the salvage auction, but somebody must've been close to it when the fire started, it got put out really fast. Not quite as fast as yours; my left valve cover was melted through, but the inside is absolutely clean, it was only enough get the windshield, there is no smell inside, and the damage stopped right at the firewall.
I'm following -- THANK YOU for this epic thread and those stunning diagrams!
I'm in almost the same boat -- I have a 2000 V10 4x4, I don't really know any backstory because it came from the salvage auction, but somebody must've been close to it when the fire started, it got put out really fast. Not quite as fast as yours; my left valve cover was melted through, but the inside is absolutely clean, it was only enough get the windshield, there is no smell inside, and the damage stopped right at the firewall.
I'm following -- THANK YOU for this epic thread and those stunning diagrams!
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Those look good! I know you're not near this yet but before you put all of that back in by the intake, filter and evap cannister, you might want to decide on what kind of intake, factory or otherwise, you're going to use. I can ASSSSSSUUUURRRRRREEEEEE you, it can be much easier going if you have some stuff out of the way. Up through 04 were basically shake and bake. 05 was a different story. So---if you think you want to be creative just consider your challenger