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Old Mar 18, 2016 | 08:36 AM
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The Buamann controller works well I would keep it electronic. Look up Ken Collins and bad shoe productions as he is doing a video on the 4r70w and will answer any questions, he is a Ford tech that is good at what he does.

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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 10:52 AM
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Wow, what a GREAT thread. I don't know how I missed it but there is SO much AWESOME information here. I too would like to see more on the transmission rebuild/mods as you do it. I do LOVE your truck and what you have done to it
 
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 11:34 AM
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Wow, what a GREAT thread. I don't know how I missed it but there is SO much AWESOME information here. I too would like to see more on the transmission rebuild/mods as you do it. I do LOVE your truck and what you have done to it
Thanks. Unfortunately, big dreams and small budgets makes for slow projects.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 12:53 PM
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Is this the
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 02:58 PM
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Is this the manual I should get?
I have that manual. There's actually a second manual (updated) that goes in conjunction with that one. The updated manual has a green cover.

4R70W Transmission repair manual ATSG transmission manual

The absolute best manuals to have though are the actual Ford Service Department manuals. Theory, Operation & Diagnosis Reference Manual A is Ford manual # PTB 606A. The Disassembly & Reassembly Reference Manual Volume B is Ford manual # PTB 606B.

 
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Old Apr 27, 2016 | 05:34 PM
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Awesome, thank you again!
 
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Old Jun 8, 2016 | 07:08 PM
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Later Model Bucket Seats and Bucket Seat Brackets

I had recently started a thread about my wife saying for our wedding anniversary (this coming April), she wanted to contribute towards getting the interior done on my truck, as my wedding anniversary gift from her.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...-the-blue.html

I figured I would put this all in my 'unofficial build thread.' --As I had mentioned in the thread (from the above link), I have a pair of '89 Escort GT front buckets that I had installed in my '68 Mustang back in 1996. I took the sliders off the '68 low-backs and adapted them to the '89 Escort GT seats to bolt them into my Mustang. I also have a set of '90 Mustang GT front seats that have more features/functionality than the ones from the Escort GT that I'll likely use in my '69 F100 Ranger --both the '89 Escort GT and '90 Mustang GT seats have the same frame layout.

I ordered some new bucket seat-to-floor brackets on Sunday (June 5th). They arrived today (Wednesday, June 8th).

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Ranger-F100-1967-to-1979-Ford-Truck-Bucket-Seat-Brackets-/222142241027?nav=SEARCH
The quality of the brackets is good. The only current major problem with them is that I received TWO left hand inner brackets instead of one left inner and one right inner. Hopefully, this will get swapped for the correct one without a major hassle.

The Bumpside bucket seat brackets I received.



This is the bottom of the '89 Escort GT seat frame and the '68 Mustang slider I had adapted to it 20 years ago.



Just from a preliminary mockup of the brackets, I see there's a minor problem. Notice the two circular objects (indicated by the arrows) on each seat track, sticking up off the bottom of the seat sliders.



These will cause a gap at each end where the brackets would bolt down to the studs of the sliders and possibly distort the seat brackets if the nuts were tightened down. Not a big deal though since there's an easy solution for this; put a couple of flat washers on each stud to raise the bracket to the height of the tops of the circular objects.



Left outer bracket bolted to the slider.





Left inner bracket bolted up.



....The other alternative to the shims (washers) MIGHT be to drill clearance holes in the brackets for the circular objects to stick up through the bracket flange, where the brackets interface with the sliders.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2016 | 04:24 AM
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Those washers being in there would not bother me. I would just consider it Adapting your 90 seats...to your 68 tracks...to your adapter brackets... to your Bump. Will it bother you knowing they are in there?
 
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Old Jun 9, 2016 | 07:11 AM
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Those washers being in there would not bother me. I would just consider it Adapting your 90 seats...to your 68 tracks...to your adapter brackets... to your Bump. Will it bother you knowing they are in there?
I've just always been very particular about things --even the stuff that doesn't show (whether anyone else knows something is there or not (whatever it might be) I know it's there).

For me, things not only have to function well, I like for them to look good too. I'm undecided what I'll do with the sliders/seat brackets but, I just got the brackets and I'll have to look at it more at a later date before determining what I'll ultimately do.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2016 | 07:23 AM
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those are not washers. They are spacers (:
 
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Old Jun 9, 2016 | 09:10 AM
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I would go with drilling the bracket to accommodate the circular bumps, thereby making the entire surface mate. Two holes per bracket will in my opinion, be a better fit.

Your truck, your decision.

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Old Aug 13, 2016 | 11:07 AM
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Wow, what a GREAT thread. I don't know how I missed it but there is SO much AWESOME information here. I too would like to see more on the transmission rebuild/mods as you do it. I do LOVE your truck and what you have done to it
Ultra, I'm watching your progress with the 4R70W trans swap. I'm seriously considering it as an option for behind my 351W. My current C4 is working but is tired so some kind of replacement will be in order in the future. I previously owned a 68 Falcon and put an AOD trans behind the 351W. The AOD was okay but had some limitations and the 4R70W has so much more potential. I've been gathering info lately. You have provided some pretty good info. I'm planning on using a Bauman controller. The one thing I need to research still is how to adapt a TPS to a 1405 Edelbrock. Keep up the good work.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2016 | 11:25 AM
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Ultra, I'm watching your progress with the 4R70W trans swap. I'm seriously considering it as an option for behind my 351W. My current C4 is working but is tired so some kind of replacement will be in order in the future. I previously owned a 68 Falcon and put an AOD trans behind the 351W. The AOD was okay but had some limitations and the 4R70W has so much more potential. I've been gathering info lately. You have provided some pretty good info. I'm planning on using a Bauman controller. The one thing I need to research still is how to adapt a TPS to a 1405 Edelbrock. Keep up the good work.
If not on the carb how about on the gas pedal like a Super Duty diesel?
 
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Old Aug 13, 2016 | 12:13 PM
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I had initially given thought to installing an AOD, even though I don't really like the AOD, its limitations and its seemingly undecided nature in not knowing if it wants to be in 4th or if it wants to be in 3rd --constant shifting back and forth between these gears in particular situations (at least in its stock, unmodified form).

My 4R70W is still in its state of disassembly from where it was a year ago. I have other fish to fry presently but, the parts are all laid out on the work bench and have been covered over with a heavy gauge plastic ever since I tore the transmission down.

I haven't gotten to this stage yet, and don't know exactly what will have to be done, as it relates to the MLPS shift lever on the side of the transmission. The transmission I have came from a '98 3.8L Mustang. This was a floor shift setup. I'm not sure if I can flip the transmission lever over to be compatible with a column shift or, if I'll have to swap out the lever for one that was designed for a column shift (?). I'll figure that out when I get back to this project.

Probably your best bet would be to find a 4R70W from a '99-later Ford truck with a 4.2L engine or a 4R70W from a '99-'01 5.0L Ford Explorer. Both of these will be configured for column shift and the '99 model had some improvements over the '98 model 4R transmissions. Whatever 4R70W transmission you decide to get, it's best to stay away from the '93-'97 versions and get a '98-later version. '98-up has vast internal improvements over the '97-earlier versions.

I'm not sure if this is universal with all 4R70W transmissions but, about 2002 or 2003 the extension (tail) housings were no longer machined to accept a VSS/speedometer cable attachement in the Mustangs --other Ford vehicle lines MAY have done the same (?). Tail housings can be changed out but you should be aware of this if you're going to run a mechanical speedometer.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2016 | 12:20 PM
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The one thing I need to research still is how to adapt a TPS to a 1405 Edelbrock. Keep up the good work.
There. Research done for you.

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