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Old Sep 28, 2013 | 09:12 PM
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The rubber would include the hearer hoses and the degas bottle "Y" and
that sucker is $$. You also have the heater control valve. Upper and lower
radiator hoses.They were not cheep.

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Old Sep 28, 2013 | 09:37 PM
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IDK what rates are there but I would think for around his 6K he could get a new head and Both Studded

He could change some that Rubber in his driveway Hoses Degass Bottle

He probably needs to add a Coolant filter



Sean is the Diesel Fuel harder on the Rubber then Oil???
 
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Old Sep 28, 2013 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BLADE35
IDK what rates are there but I would think for around his 6K he could get a new head and Both Studded

He could change some that Rubber in his driveway Hoses Degass Bottle

He probably needs to add a Coolant filter



Sean is the Diesel Fuel harder on the Rubber then Oil???
Yes, the fuel will make any rubber it comes in contact with swell. That is why on trucks with severe fuel contamination, I price everything made of or containing rubber.

As for the quote, that is rather high and included some things that aren't necessary. Like the egr cooler, injector and glow plug.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2013 | 11:49 PM
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Sean, all those rubber parts have already been exposed to the diesel. I would nanny it back home if it was mine.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by big inch
Yes, the fuel will make any rubber it comes in contact with swell. .

OK that sounds Framilliar maybe from the stuck Water Drain Bolts @ the HFCM that get stuck some have said it was due to oring swelling


do you change upper and Lower radiator hoses & Heater Hoses??
The Heater Hose look Spendy for the Return Heater Line

Would the Bigger Hoses Last longer??
 
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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 12:11 AM
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The rubber once it's exposed to diesel even if you clean it
will later get dry and brittle. One thing you don't want in the
cooling system is brittle hoses. They tend to know where
and where the worst place to fail is and promptly do just that.
The degas "Y" would not be an easy one to quick fix with
parts from a hardware store.

Sean
 
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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by big inch
Yes, the fuel will make any rubber it comes in contact with swell. That is why on trucks with severe fuel contamination, I price everything made of or containing rubber.

As for the quote, that is rather high and included some things that aren't necessary. Like the egr cooler, injector and glow plug.
I would have recommended that also but I didn't want to "toad strangle" an already drowned parade--LOL.

I didn't see anywhere in the quote where they provided a tube of KY......
 
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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by npccpartsman
Sorry, but fuel in the coolant cannot damage the EGR cooler. That's a bunch of crap. It's stainless steel. I'd make him pressure test the cooler and PROVE it was needed. They should have the special tools for that. Fuel, as you've already discovered, will damage all the rubber parts it touches. I'd make sure they checked the donut gasket between the front cover and intake manifold at least, and maybe even the water pump o-ring.
I will be back at the dealer tomorrow. I'll dig into the EGR issue. If we're going to replace the fan clutch and if we have to check the water pump o ring, should we just replace the pump?
 
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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by mustang_309
If you weren't experiencing any drivability issues I would tell them no on the injector, If you weren't experiencing any white smoke I would tell them no on the EGR cooler and I would tell them no on the glowplugs and yes on the glow plug harness as they are easily damaged on disassembly and I would tell them no on the clutch fan if you were not experiencing overheating issues. I would want both heads and gaskets. And I agree with NPCC on this the fuel would not damage the EGR cooler.

I've always said the truck drove like it had a sinus headache. Like it was wheezing but no mechanic could find out why. The truck gets 10 MPG, towing or maybe 12 to 13 if not. It's throwing a code for one glowplug, I think the #2, I can do that myself or just let them bend me over more for it as long as they are in there. The fan clutch is throwing 2 codes and has been for a few months. The codes can be cleared for a while but they come back. I did monitor the fan speed and it never goes over 1200 RPM. While towing we can hear a few very short loud blasts of the fan but not like we used to. I'd hate to see what they want for both heads and gaskets.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by olfordsnstone
Personally, I would never get to the oil cooler without replacing it. Not with the track record of oil coolers in these things. Are you sure he didn't say that he's replacing the oil cooler and leaving the egr cooler alone? That would make a little more sense to me.

I'm not a 6.0 tech guru, however I did stay a an FTE Inn Express last night...
He said EGR cooler because of pressure issues. I'm going to double check this tomorrow now that I'm armed with a lot more data.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by BLADE35
Well Data what did you tell them ??Go for It

Why thte Fan Clutch
Fan clutch is throwing 2 codes, has been for a few months, doesn't pick up speed with the AC, codes will clear but come back in a few weeks, I haven't seen it go over 1200 RPM even with the ground wire mod, does do a high RPM blast on the freeway when towing uphill.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 11:05 AM
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Good Lord. Tell them to put it back together like they found it except put a new degas bottle on it. Drive it to the rv park. Change the coolant, and pull the rv home. It pulled the camper to the park, it will likely get it home. You said this is not a new issue. The head was cracked on the trip up want it?

I can't believe nobody has discussed that. I'd thus not a possible solution?

You already know they're liars.

You can deal with it better at home and could save $2000 or more.
That's the problem, LIKELY. If I could patch it together and make a run for it I would. However, with so much fuel in the cooling system, how do i know that I'm not going to get half way across Oklahoma, start blowing white smoke or overheat and do more damage than I already did. Sorry to be so harsh, all of you have been a wealth of information but please realize the massive jam I am in.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by dataman
That's the problem, LIKELY. If I could patch it together and make a run for it I would. However, with so much fuel in the cooling system, how do i know that I'm not going to get half way across Oklahoma, start blowing white smoke or overheat and do more damage than I already did. Sorry to be so harsh, all of you have been a wealth of information but please realize the massive jam I am in.
We (and if I may speak for the lot of us) do realize the massive jam you are in and just want you to be as fully armed as you can to be able to deal intelligently with the problem. We just hate seeing anybody get bent over for no good reason. I'm sure they will "threaten" you with all kinds of "If you don't do this then......" scenario's but that's why we're expressing our opinion as we are.

BTW....If you get across Oklahoma and have a problem I'm on the Arkansas/Oklahoma border and I bet we can get you home.....
 
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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 01:16 PM
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Someday I will be able to rep you again Tim.

You are a tremendous help to many folks.
 
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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by olfordsnstone
I'd think one would want to change all of the rubber anyway, right? At least, I did when R&Ring heads, due to diesel contamination.
Now here's where I'd blow them off and hope and pray I'd make it home as it was. Once home I'd replace, at my own pace and budget the lines that needed to be. Risky but have to be unless something is really shot, gone or leaking. Nothing was when it when in and it better not have any when they start it up.

I'll be more hoppin mad than any of you are right now.
 
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