Man down...
Cargo Master
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From: Door Cty/Florida
Oh, I'll let you know. I just want the say thank you to the AWESOME help that we received from the city of Cecil's police department as well as the guy driving the flat bed. I know they recognized the trailer (BSA of America) and went the extra mile, but part of me say they were the type of people that it didn't matter. They were really good and helpful in a stressful time.
As of the census of 2000, there were 466 people, 199 households, and 148 families residing in the village.
Good luck getting your truck fixed up and running again. Sucks that you needed a tow.
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Fleet Owner
Joined: Mar 2012
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From: Wisconsin
Long story short...
Service Manager is on vacation, but the head tech in the service garage has diagnosed a failed PCM. They are ordering a new PCM and they are hoping it arrives by Thursday. They are not certain when it will arrive due to the holiday. They are optimistic that they will have it fixed by weeks end. I am not so optimistic. I just don't understand how the PCM can cause the issues that I experienced. I am not doubting the PCM is bad as they had to run a lot of tests to confirm it was bad and get warranty authorization, but I just have a bad feeling when they get the PCM in there that additional problems will surface. I'd love to be wrong...really. I don't doubt the techs at this dealership know what they are doing either. There are a lot of powerstrokes up in that part of Wisconsin. I asked for codes and was the lady I talked to said I'd have to talk to the Service Manager for those or wait for my invoice. She has a note for him to call me and she says he will be stopping in tomorrow for an hour (even though he is on vacation). Apparently, he wants to see my truck as well.
Service Manager is on vacation, but the head tech in the service garage has diagnosed a failed PCM. They are ordering a new PCM and they are hoping it arrives by Thursday. They are not certain when it will arrive due to the holiday. They are optimistic that they will have it fixed by weeks end. I am not so optimistic. I just don't understand how the PCM can cause the issues that I experienced. I am not doubting the PCM is bad as they had to run a lot of tests to confirm it was bad and get warranty authorization, but I just have a bad feeling when they get the PCM in there that additional problems will surface. I'd love to be wrong...really. I don't doubt the techs at this dealership know what they are doing either. There are a lot of powerstrokes up in that part of Wisconsin. I asked for codes and was the lady I talked to said I'd have to talk to the Service Manager for those or wait for my invoice. She has a note for him to call me and she says he will be stopping in tomorrow for an hour (even though he is on vacation). Apparently, he wants to see my truck as well.
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From: Altoona, Ia
With mechanical injectors that is true, besides the lift pump and glow plugs.
Electronic injectors change everything. Not to mention all the sensors and valves for emissions crap we have these days.
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From: The Woodlands, TX
Subscribing.
I had similar issues in my 95 & 99 7.3's. Both had codes that it was bad PCM, shop installed new one and still had issues. Turned out to be faulty wiring.
I know the technologies are worlds apart, and hopefully it is the PCM so they can get you on the road ASAP, but if it was possible then, it's possible now.
I had similar issues in my 95 & 99 7.3's. Both had codes that it was bad PCM, shop installed new one and still had issues. Turned out to be faulty wiring.
I know the technologies are worlds apart, and hopefully it is the PCM so they can get you on the road ASAP, but if it was possible then, it's possible now.
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From: Isanti, MN
I too would be skeptical in your shoes, but if it is truly a bad PCM then I consider this to be a good thing, as this would be a rare failure that is unlikely to be a common problem! At least I hope!
Lead Driver
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From: Woodbridge, Ontario, CA
Not that it helps much to the OP's issue in question, but as tech of over twenty years, any time I come across a situation where the next pinpoint test step instructs you replace an expensive module, I have learned to proceed with caution. Meaning, I ask myself if I've checked all powers and grounds to the said module? Have I LOAD-TESTED all circuits involved with the said concern? Customer pay or not, I'm not about to go ahead and replace an expensive module before exhausting ALL possibilities. For what it's worth, if the present symptom is a NO-CRANK/NO-START I hope the servicing tech has checked into what strategies will cause a NO-CRANK/NO-START issue before outright condemning the PCM. I don't like calling other people down, and I hope I'm wrong but something gives me this awful feeling that a PCM replace is not going to fix the OP's issue.
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From: Newmarket, Ontario
Last year I had an issue with my work vehicle. The truck would start run and just die and then no restart. This vehicle had two new PCM's thrown at it by GMC Techs who like Mike points out didn't do all the checks. After the second PCM was installed and the vehicle was returned to service once again it died no restart. And again taken back to GM who this time found a faulty ground that was the culprit. Many of these guy's just throw parts at vehicles without doing the proper trouble shooting....
