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Old Aug 9, 2011 | 10:40 AM
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So after only ~4 hours of sleep I was awoken at 7:30 by my neighbor who informed me that we had a water leak. And boy did we...

Tried shutting off the water at the house. No luck. So I go to the street and try to turn it off there. It's stuck. So I called the city water dept. They open at 9. So I called the police. They are trying to get ahold of an on-call water dept employee.
 
Old Aug 9, 2011 | 10:53 AM
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Hopefully this is leaking outside the house. Is it the main supply line? Underground?
 
Old Aug 9, 2011 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by bpounds
Hopefully this is leaking outside the house. Is it the main supply line? Underground?
Yes to all of the above.

Outside, and it is from the main line (however it is an offshoot, but before any valves that can be turned off) and it is underground.
 
Old Aug 9, 2011 | 10:59 AM
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Maybe the sprinkler system.
 
Old Aug 9, 2011 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by bpounds
Maybe the sprinkler system.
Its the feed line for the sprinkler system, but like I said, before the shut off valve for the sprinklers. If you picture where the pipe comes up out of the ground to the sprinkler do-dads, that is where the leak is. Its underground at the 90* elbow where the pipe turns vertical.

After getting tired of waiting for the water company I went back out to the water meter at the street. I found a second valve. This one still worked. Gee I wonder why



I now have a siphon from the back yard to the front using a garden hose (that I started the old school way. By mouth..) and that is doing well. We have a pool of standing water about 10'x20' and about 9" deep at the deepest spot. I know it was at least 9" because my boots are a 9" high boot.
 
Old Aug 9, 2011 | 12:10 PM
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Did I mention, we have not yet had to pay an Edison bill this entire year? I think we might have to finally pay something in September.
You been off the grid the last 8 months or what? Where do I sign up?
 
Old Aug 9, 2011 | 12:14 PM
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You been off the grid the last 8 months or what? Where do I sign up?
We are on the level-pay plan, and we got that far ahead of what we should have paid. Due to changes in how we used the A/C, as well as a very mild summer last year. Also replaced a 20yo fridge with a new efficient unit.
 
Old Aug 9, 2011 | 12:22 PM
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Ah, I get it.
I thought about getting on that plan last year, but I did the math and figured that I'd be paying bout $50 a month more than I thought I should have to. Looking back, prolly would have made sense, since I'm in a constant struggle with the wife on how long the A/C should be on this time of year.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2011 | 12:28 PM
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A couple/three years ago, I had a new Honeywell t-stat installed, 7-day programmable and all that stuff. So I thinks to myself, I wonder if it would be better to just set it to 75° and let it have the house cool by 5PM when I get home. Instead of just turning it on when I get there.

But that t-stat has predictive/adaptive learning, and it "learned" that in order to be at 75° by 5PM, it would have to start running at 10AM on a hot summer day. It even reads the temp of the wall it is mounted on to figure this out. Bottom line is it was running far too much. Unfortunately, on the level-pay plan, you don't figure this out until you've used a lot of juice. So they jacked our bill way up last year to catch up. Meanwhile, I had figure it out myself and cut way back.

And here we are. It has been nice to not pay for 8 months so far.
 
Old Aug 9, 2011 | 01:11 PM
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Invest in US Steel (NYSE: X).

Been around FOREVER! Cant see them going under...

Or Google (NYSE: GOOG) but one share is like $500 haha
looked at them...it would be a good time to buy possibly cuz they are down about 50% on their 52 wk high

Yeah I almost bought a couple google shares but instead bought more AAPL...I got 20 shares that are doin pretty good
 
Old Aug 9, 2011 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by bpounds
We are on the level-pay plan, and we got that far ahead of what we should have paid. Due to changes in how we used the A/C, as well as a very mild summer last year. Also replaced a 20yo fridge with a new efficient unit.
Do you (does your house) have a smart meter?

Up here, BC Hydro is trying to ram smart meters down our throats. Jury's still out on if they're good or bad.
 
Old Aug 9, 2011 | 02:09 PM
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Do you (does your house) have a smart meter?
They started replacing them in SoCal last year, it's mandatory. They just came out and changed it.

To me, it's bad, but I consider myself somewhat of a cynic. What it means is it's an easier way to charge you more during "peak" times.
 
Old Aug 9, 2011 | 02:44 PM
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Do you (does your house) have a smart meter?

Originally Posted by barthel
They started replacing them in SoCal last year, it's mandatory. They just came out and changed it.
Yes. That's another thing that changed during this time period. In fact, the wife was pissed and convinced that the new meter was the reason why our bills were so high last year. But by then I was monitoring the usage on the bills, so I knew it was not that. And SCE had a rate increase during that time too. That's one of the problems, too many things changed in a short period of time, making it more difficult to pinpoint where the money was going.

Oh, had two kids boomerang back out during this time too.



Now they are pestering us to sign up on the web to see graphs of our usage, so we can use power "wisely". I haven't bothered. I'm gonna use it when I want it, regardless of any "circles and arrows and paragraphs on the back." I'm happy on the Group-W bench.
 
Old Aug 9, 2011 | 04:27 PM
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As much as I hate to admit it, I haven't seen any noticable change in my energy costs with the smart meter. Just the normal summer increase.
 
Old Aug 9, 2011 | 04:40 PM
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Hey doodz

I'm thinking our electric bill for this month should be pretty reasonable
 



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