side mirriors...
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From: colbert washington
Take a piece of galv or steel pipe nipple. Cut in half and drill center hole to use as a clamp to spread out and pinch the mirror holder to the braket in the door. I have not done this myself but have seen it on other trucks. Dress it up with paint should work to spread out the pressure and keep the bar holding the mirror from moving. I would probably use 1/2 or 3/8 depending on the size of mirror bar support bar you use. Good luck.
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Someone posted a pic here in the past that shows use of a larger rectangular mirror mounted to the existing factory door mount arm.
Genuine Ford non-telescoping mirror.
1. Looks vintage 2. easily used with factory door arm 3. would add needed visibility - a larger mirror and especially with the longer arm as the small round mirrors I have are also obscured somewhat by the vent window post!
1964/72 Ford Truck Parts Catalog / Illustration Section 172.2, Page 5 / There are two types: Telescoping (C3TZ-17696-E), non telescoping (C3TZ-17696-C or C3TZ-17696-D).
The last time I looked, both types could still be found NOS, but I cannot look for the little darlin's until Tuesday at the earliest.
Could you scan and post the above pic, and these two Western Jr mirror pics shown on pages 2 & 6? One of us could then ask fabmandeluxe to post them as a sticky.
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Mirror mirror, on the truck,,,lol. On my 65 F350
well... ive been talked into it lol i wanna get some new side mirriors for my truck i dont like the original cause there so small... but does anyone kno were i can find some nice chrome side mirriors that are suitable some nice sizeable mirriors about 4-6in in diameter. those huge ones are kinda throwin off its old age look.
I made my mirror arms outta 5/8" stainless bar, heated the ends and bashed em flat. Made appropriate bends here and there, then drilled the ends and mounted them to my own brackets (in the original position).
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I found 5" peep mirrors on the net, they're just some aftermarket jobbies.
I've found them a bit small, so I'm about to go get a couple of others, like the ones on that green truck in the posts.
They look like the 6" x 4" ones made by Britax. They can be had stainless or painted I believe.
I'm gunna make some new arms soon. Something with a little more curve rather than those sharp corners. I recon that'll look better with the trucks shape.
I made my own brackets outta s/s. Note they're bent horizontally. That way if the mirror/arm get bumped, the whole friggin lot don't get mangled.
Oh yeah, just a suggestion, don't make the same blue I did, by using an ordinary wire brush wheel to clean em up. What happens is, minute bits of steel get impregnated in the stainless, and then the whole shebang goes rusty. Ya live and learn.
Check out my albums, there's a couple more pics on there showing the mirrors.
Hope that gives ya some ideas.
Cheers, Ron.
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Bill,
Great Caesar's Ghost!, I did not even think to look in my book, cuz I figured the Western Jr. styles were the only ones available and just added aftermarket
. I must admit, I do like the look of the non-telescoping ones, though! I guess you could run them without that extra little brace like the green truck does, long as you are careful! If you know of a source, I would be interested!
Great Caesar's Ghost!, I did not even think to look in my book, cuz I figured the Western Jr. styles were the only ones available and just added aftermarket
. I must admit, I do like the look of the non-telescoping ones, though! I guess you could run them without that extra little brace like the green truck does, long as you are careful! If you know of a source, I would be interested!
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I just took my Western Jr mirrors off and welded the holes shut on the door. I want to go with the more stylish 5" round. All that is salvagable is the frames and hardware, the mirror head was rusted through. They have surface rust but are in good shape. Let me know if someone wants them.
Mark
Mark
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Bill,
Great Caesar's Ghost!, I did not even think to look in my book, cuz I figured the Western Jr. styles were the only ones available and just added aftermarket. I must admit, I do like the look of the non-telescoping ones, though! I guess you could run them without that extra little brace like the green truck does, long as you are careful! If you know of a source, I would be interested!
Great Caesar's Ghost!, I did not even think to look in my book, cuz I figured the Western Jr. styles were the only ones available and just added aftermarket
. I must admit, I do like the look of the non-telescoping ones, though! I guess you could run them without that extra little brace like the green truck does, long as you are careful! If you know of a source, I would be interested!From left to right:
1) C3TZ-17696-B (replaced: C1TB-17696-A, C1TB-17696-D, C1TB-17696-E) .. Painted Telescoping Type-5" x 8" Mirror Head (C1TZ-17723-G = replaced C1TZ-17723-C)
EDIT (1/3/2012): 5 available NOS (2-C3TZ-17696-B / (3-C1TB-17696-E)
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2) C1TZ-17696-G (replaced C1TZ-17696-C) .. Painted Non-Telescoping Type-5" x 5" Square Mirror Head (B7CZ-17723-B).
1 available NOS
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2) C3TZ-17696-C (replaced: C1TB-17696-B, C1TB-17696-F) .. Painted Non-Telescoping Type-5" x 8" Rectangular Mirror Head (C1TZ-17723-G replaced C1TZ-17723-C).
EDIT: NONE available.
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3) C6TZ-17696-A .. Stainless Western Junior-Swing-Lok (6" x 10" C6TZ-17723-A Mirror Head has 3 vertical embossed lines).
1 available NOS
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3) C1TZ-17696-D .. Western Junior-Painted-7" x 11" Mirror Head (C1TZ-17723-B).
8 available NOS
P/M for the sources for mirrors (and mirror heads), there are waaay too many sources to list.
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I just took my Western Jr mirrors off and welded the holes shut on the door. I want to go with the more stylish 5" round. All that is salvagable is the frames and hardware, the mirror head was rusted through. They have surface rust but are in good shape. Let me know if someone wants them.
Mark
Mark
I have a couple of 5" round "peep" style mirrors on my old girl. Personally, I think they a bit small, so I'm about to change them to some stainless steel 6" x 8" Rectangular mirrors.
I find that when the 5" heads are adjusted to see rear traffic, even when you move your head, it's very hard to see the lower part and back tyre of my old girl. Thats just a pain when maneuvering in tight parks etc. Also side to side view is not so good either, as I've found out when doing some lane changing,,,,lol.
I'm also gunna make some new mirror arms with less acute bends, more rounded to suit the body lines better.
These mirrors I'm gettin, are very similar to the genuine Ford items in the top picture of the four that Old Harley posted above, except the mounting bolt, is in the center, not about a third the distance from one end.
When they're fitted, and if I remember. I'll post a couple of picks.
Anyway, just my two bobs worth.
Cheers, Ron.
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Mirror heads
the number is 17793 or 23 I think from the diagram you had posted earlier. I had a set off of a 64 that I used on my 41 since those were very small round mirrors, not allowing enough eyesight. Anyhow the originals I had on my truck have been buggerd up by me going in and out of storage, now I have different storage and would like to put another set on besides the ones I have now. Those came from Napa.
Last edited by white 66; Sep 26, 2011 at 09:18 PM. Reason: additiaonal info.
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White 66.
The 17723 mirror head was available in 5" x 5" OR 5" x 8" depending on the suffix added that is not shown in the illustration. i.e.; C1TZ-17723-C for example.
I asked since I am installing some of these on my truck and the only setup available were with the 5" x 5" head. I will probably replace these with some different ones so I have two NOS 5" x 5" heads with the Ford script available, if you are interested.
The 17723 mirror head was available in 5" x 5" OR 5" x 8" depending on the suffix added that is not shown in the illustration. i.e.; C1TZ-17723-C for example.
I asked since I am installing some of these on my truck and the only setup available were with the 5" x 5" head. I will probably replace these with some different ones so I have two NOS 5" x 5" heads with the Ford script available, if you are interested.
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Hey guys just joined this forum. I bought my daughter a '65 f100 like grandpa use to have my wife is about to ground me from working on it and we've only had it a week. I'm looking for some of those smaller mirrors you all are trying to get rid of (like the ones on the red and white '66) but can't find but will be looking at some of the places you all mentioned. I'll try to get some pics on here I know Hannah (my daughter) is pretty proud
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The chrome mirrors w/the 5" round mirror head that fit into the door slots are reproduced, available from every repro parts seller.
The closest source to you that has them is Classic Auto Parts, located in OKC
The chrome mirrors w/the 5" round mirror head that fit into the door slots are reproduced, available from every repro parts seller.
The closest source to you that has them is Classic Auto Parts, located in OKC
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Mirrors
White 66.
The 17723 mirror head was available in 5" x 5" OR 5" x 8" depending on the suffix added that is not shown in the illustration. i.e.; C1TZ-17723-C for example.
I asked since I am installing some of these on my truck and the only setup available were with the 5" x 5" head. I will probably replace these with some different ones so I have two NOS 5" x 5" heads with the Ford script available, if you are interested.
The 17723 mirror head was available in 5" x 5" OR 5" x 8" depending on the suffix added that is not shown in the illustration. i.e.; C1TZ-17723-C for example.
I asked since I am installing some of these on my truck and the only setup available were with the 5" x 5" head. I will probably replace these with some different ones so I have two NOS 5" x 5" heads with the Ford script available, if you are interested.
Hmm, that would be cool but I think the 8" tall ones would help me better see what is on my sides. I have had them on all of the slicks I have owned from 61 to 66 they work well enough for general purposes. I had a good set left over from my 61 I used on my 41, they at least look like they belong.
Old Harley thanks for replying, I appreciate it as I am new to this forum. I will keep looking for a pair.