Notices
Excursion - King of SUVs 2000 - 2005 Ford Excursion
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

The camper thread! Pulling, using, equipment, maintenance!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 2, 2021 | 04:01 PM
  #4246  
JSPEX's Avatar
JSPEX
Tuned
5 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 353
Likes: 167
From: Central VA
Yeah, the sticker is faded enough that I can't read it and the owners manual says follow the manufacturers instructions. Tires say 80# max but since the heat/hot roads will cause an increase in pressure I'm thinking 70 ish.
 
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2021 | 04:07 PM
  #4247  
hz27dago's Avatar
hz27dago
Freshman User
Joined: Feb 2021
Posts: 29
Likes: 15
Originally Posted by JSPEX
Yeah, the sticker is faded enough that I can't read it and the owners manual says follow the manufacturers instructions. Tires say 80# max but since the heat/hot roads will cause an increase in pressure I'm thinking 70 ish.
Double check me on this but it should say 80lbs max cold, the mfr's leave room for them to warm up.
 
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2021 | 04:13 PM
  #4248  
ShelbyHauler's Avatar
ShelbyHauler
Laughing Gas
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 1,002
Likes: 641
From: Miami, Fl
Originally Posted by hz27dago
Double check me on this but it should say 80lbs max cold, the mfr's leave room for them to warm up.
I run my Endurance tires at 80 cold. They go up to around 89 after a bit. I also use the stem mounted TPMS sensors to monitor the tires

 
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2021 | 04:21 PM
  #4249  
WE3ZS's Avatar
WE3ZS
Moderator
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 12,051
Likes: 1,549
From: Media PA
Club FTE Gold Member
Nothing destroys ST tires faster than underinflation (along with over speeding on the cheap 65 MPH max STs) so the rule of thumb has always been run them at max sidewall listed pressure, nobody is riding back there to complain about the slightly harsher ride. And all tires are specced and rated for whatever pressure COLD, the increase in pressure from running and the sun (sunny side always runs hotter than the shaded side) is calculated into that COLD pressure.
Personally I think with those exceptionally good Endurance tires that you would be good at a lower than rated pressure as you are at least a load range or two over what is needed for your TT's GVWR. The best advice I can give is to get it scaled (also a great way to dial in your WD hitch setup!) and then inflate to whatever Goodyears inflation tables call for, plus maybe 5 or 10 PSI. I run my 110 PSI rated load range G Sailun STs at 95 PSI which is slightly above what the inflation chart calls for to support the weight my axles carry on our big TT.
 
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2021 | 07:31 PM
  #4250  
Excurvelle's Avatar
Excurvelle
Logistics Pro
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 3,532
Likes: 495
From: NC
I run my trailer and Excursion tires at 80 PSI.
 
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2021 | 08:45 PM
  #4251  
ExxWhy's Avatar
ExxWhy
Logistics Pro
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 4,888
Likes: 3,433
From: Ohio
Originally Posted by copsey
24 acres, 12 wooded 12 tilled last year. Lots of dead ash trees and honeysuckle. Had a state forester out yesterday to start our EQIP planning, hoping for some grant money to help pay for what we are going to do anyway. The 24 acres are going to be split between my brother and his family and me and mine. Mom and dad live a creek away.

If the driveway continued into the woods past the campers there is another 46 acres I'm trying to secure also. It's all woods and would stay that way.
That's cool you will be close to family and have enough room to spread out. An extra 46 acres would be sweet. We just bought 35 acres of woods in southern Ohio, thinking an off grid recreational cabin setup for us.
 
Reply
Old Jun 2, 2021 | 08:46 PM
  #4252  
mecdac's Avatar
mecdac
Lead Driver
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,263
Likes: 149
From: In the field...
Originally Posted by WE3ZS
Nothing destroys ST tires faster than underinflation (along with over speeding on the cheap 65 MPH max STs) so the rule of thumb has always been run them at max sidewall listed pressure, nobody is riding back there to complain about the slightly harsher ride.
Just the shrimp and lobster...

I totally agree with underinflation, however; what about the increasingly hard turns we have to put on the sidewalls? That seems to mess with the belts more.
 
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2021 | 07:15 AM
  #4253  
copsey's Avatar
copsey
More Turbo
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 588
Likes: 20
From: Wilmington, OH
Originally Posted by ExxWhy
That's cool you will be close to family and have enough room to spread out. An extra 46 acres would be sweet. We just bought 35 acres of woods in southern Ohio, thinking an off grid recreational cabin setup for us.

Where is your planned cabin? We are near Wilmington.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-4

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-6

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
Old Jun 3, 2021 | 08:31 AM
  #4254  
WE3ZS's Avatar
WE3ZS
Moderator
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 12,051
Likes: 1,549
From: Media PA
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by mecdac
Just the shrimp and lobster...

I totally agree with underinflation, however; what about the increasingly hard turns we have to put on the sidewalls? That seems to mess with the belts more.
The opinion of the seafood doesn't matter, only the taste!

Ageed that trailer tires do see some pretty stressful situations like hard scrubbing on really tight maneuvering turns, that's where buying the best quality tire for your trailer pays off. I've had belt breakage issues with several cheap Chinese ST tires, lost 5 STs between two trailers due to belt issues. Luckily non of them lost air and shredded the trailer side, however one incident did lead to enough vibration to break the rear coil on the fridge, so that was an expensive first day of a 3 week trip with 4 new tires and a new refrigerator.
Now that most common sizes are available in the Goodyear Endurance line along with a few other high quality ST choices, like my Sailuns, folks who take the time to look into the topic and take their towing seriously have solid options available to vastly reduce trailer tire issues.
 
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2021 | 10:04 AM
  #4255  
ExxWhy's Avatar
ExxWhy
Logistics Pro
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 4,888
Likes: 3,433
From: Ohio
Originally Posted by copsey
Where is your planned cabin? We are near Wilmington.
We are close to Waverly, just south of Chillicothe. It came with a camper, a bit rough.



A little bit of the 1600' of driveway that was just finished.


 
Reply
Old Jun 3, 2021 | 12:28 PM
  #4256  
copsey's Avatar
copsey
More Turbo
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 588
Likes: 20
From: Wilmington, OH
Originally Posted by ExxWhy
We are close to Waverly, just south of Chillicothe. It came with a camper, a bit rough.



A little bit of the 1600' of driveway that was just finished.


That's a beautiful area down that way. Spent a lot of time in those woods with the Chillicothe Enduro Riders. Don't ya love the long driveways? Mine between 1750 and 1800 depending on where the wife decides the front of the house ends up sitting. Won't drop 57s until the construction is done, now it's just roll your ankle #2s. You've got prime mushroom hunting in April down that way for sure.
 
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2021 | 03:33 PM
  #4257  
thor363's Avatar
thor363
Fleet Mechanic
5 Year Member
Photogenic
Loved
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 1,314
Likes: 103
From: TN
Originally Posted by WE3ZS
Nothing destroys ST tires faster than underinflation (along with over speeding on the cheap 65 MPH max STs) so the rule of thumb has always been run them at max sidewall listed pressure, nobody is riding back there to complain about the slightly harsher ride. And all tires are specced and rated for whatever pressure COLD, the increase in pressure from running and the sun (sunny side always runs hotter than the shaded side) is calculated into that COLD pressure.
Personally I think with those exceptionally good Endurance tires that you would be good at a lower than rated pressure as you are at least a load range or two over what is needed for your TT's GVWR. The best advice I can give is to get it scaled (also a great way to dial in your WD hitch setup!) and then inflate to whatever Goodyears inflation tables call for, plus maybe 5 or 10 PSI. I run my 110 PSI rated load range G Sailun STs at 95 PSI which is slightly above what the inflation chart calls for to support the weight my axles carry on our big TT.
Just did a once over on the TT and dragged it back from one of our other homes. I knew these TrailerKing tires had been on there long enough, and inspected them quite closely. The TT had been sitting too long at the other home and simply based on age I knew it was time to replace them. Yup, got her home and there's an obvious failure about to happen...luckily I made it home fine and the trip was short but could have ended badly.

So, @WE3ZS and gang. What's a good source for a great E (or better) load rated tire?

Unfortunately the rims on this 2017 Keystone are 14's, and the originals are ST205/75/R14. Seems hard to find anything in a 14" that goes beyond D load rating.

Here's a pic to scare yall if you think Chinabombs don't exist. There were no marks on this sidewall, nothing was hit...It's my foot that left the wet mark. To reiterate, I looked them all over after airing up to 50# cold (max).

 
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2021 | 04:35 PM
  #4258  
ExxWhy's Avatar
ExxWhy
Logistics Pro
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 4,888
Likes: 3,433
From: Ohio
I don't think anybody makes load range E in that size. Do you know your actual ready to camp weight on the trailer? You most likely could put 15" wheels on it if you really need the capacity.
 
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2021 | 05:53 PM
  #4259  
thor363's Avatar
thor363
Fleet Mechanic
5 Year Member
Photogenic
Loved
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 1,314
Likes: 103
From: TN
Originally Posted by ExxWhy
I don't think anybody makes load range E in that size. Do you know your actual ready to camp weight on the trailer? You most likely could put 15" wheels on it if you really need the capacity.
It's still fairly light at 5230 dry but I won't get a loaded weight until I get out to a real highway to a weigh station one day when the Cummins is done.
 
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2021 | 05:54 PM
  #4260  
BWST's Avatar
BWST
Got Data?
10 Year Member
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 4,250
Likes: 1,381
From: Lake Stevens, WA
Club FTE Gold Member
You've got C rated now. D rated should give you good margin, with a 65 psi max cold inflation instead of 50psi.

I've had good results going one load rating above the sticker on the trailer. Just about to replace the 10 year old C rated 14" tires on the boat trailer with D's. It's an occasional use trailer, so china-made Towmasters will do the job. If I was towing a given trailer often, I'd find a GY Endurance or Sailun version.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:10 AM.

story-0
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-02 21:45:57


VIEW MORE
story-1
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalytic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-30 18:33:59


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-3
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-5
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-6
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-7
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-9
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE