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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 07:29 PM
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I really don't know... But I am now on the fence as to what rods to put in the new motor. I really am scared to have to go through this again. I am looking for a GOOD price on some GOOD rods, so that no matter what I do down the road, I don't end up doing this again.... Suggestions?
I would suggest if you are going through all the trouble to put an engine in, you should do it right that way there will be no worries later.
If mine goes, I will do a full build. Crower rods, girdle, etc... all the good stuff.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by fyrehose
I would suggest if you are going through all the trouble to put an engine in, you should do it right that way there will be no worries later.
If mine goes, I will do a full build. Crower rods, girdle, etc... all the good stuff.
Thats sorta the thoughts I am having... Do you know of any place to pickup a set of rods for a "Slightly" more reasonable price? 2600 is a LOT of money to spend on rods... Any other options out there?
 
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 10:35 PM
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Just saw your pics Fordzilla... makes me sick to think of what that must have been like...
 
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by fyrehose
I would suggest if you are going through all the trouble to put an engine in, you should do it right that way there will be no worries later.
If mine goes, I will do a full build. Crower rods, girdle, etc... all the good stuff.

You could go through all that effort, and still crack a block... that what happened to my buddy... full build and ended up with a cracked block... and it was even magnafluxed...


John, you just gotta figure out what you want. If you are happy where you are at. Just stick a set of forged rods in there, headstuds and valveprings... and run it....

If you want more... 500 range then it is going to snowball... If you are going to put a girdle, rods, then you might as well get the heads machined for a bigger set of valve springs, and there is a lot more you can do...

I think R&R rods are the cheapest... they are a little cheaper then the ones you mentioned above...
 
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Layson
You could go through all that effort, and still crack a block... that what happened to my buddy... full build and ended up with a cracked block... and it was even magnafluxed...
You bring up a good point. You could go through a full build and crack a block soon after. That's why I am still on the fence as to what I am going to do. I love the 7.3 but I hear too many cracked block stories.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 11:56 AM
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You bring up a good point. You could go through a full build and crack a block soon after. That's why I am still on the fence as to what I am going to do. I love the 7.3 but I hear too many cracked block stories.
Well, all I can do is hope for the best on that. My thought is that I "MAY" but a Dual HPOP on it down the road. If I do that with the combination I am running, then what are the chances that the Forged Rods will take that?

I go Moose hunting every year, and I think the cost of getting towed back from WAY UP NORTH, would be well over $2600 if I blew a motor there. So, it would be smart to just bite the bullet and put the rods in now...
 
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 04:09 PM
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Here's a different "take" on the logic.

Wouldn't it be just as smart to not use the 140Perf tune while moose hunting?

Might be cheaper.....

Pop
 
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SpringerPop
Here's a different "take" on the logic.

Wouldn't it be just as smart to not use the 140Perf tune while moose hunting?

Might be cheaper.....

Pop

90% of the time when the engine goes, you are not on the dyno or at the drag strip. It is when you are cruising 55 mph down the highway.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by SpringerPop
Here's a different "take" on the logic.

Wouldn't it be just as smart to not use the 140Perf tune while moose hunting?

Might be cheaper.....

Pop
Only problem with that point is that I don't want to blow it up here @ home either... one more exploding engine = cost of good rods the first time plus more.

I figure, if I put good rods, I can rely on it for years to come, and put more power at it if I so choose, and not have to be in fear of throwing a rod.

An interesting comment from a company claiming 600plus HP out of stock forged rods with peaning and cryo:

> John
>
>If you are looking for something a little better than stock forged rods I
>would suggest forged rods that have been cryo.tempered and heat treated.
>They are about 25% stronger than stock forged rods. We have them in motors
>that are 600 + hp. and they do well. I still would not use them if you are
>considering using nitrous or really going extreme. The next step up would
>be billet rods. We are in the process of designing our own billet rods .Not
>sure where we will be at on price yet. The cryoed rods are 600.00 a set
>ready to go in your motor.
Carson Stauffer
 
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by fordzilla01
Only problem with that point is that I don't want to blow it up here @ home either... one more exploding engine = cost of good rods the first time plus more.

I figure, if I put good rods, I can rely on it for years to come, and put more power at it if I so choose, and not have to be in fear of throwing a rod.

An interesting comment from a company claiming 600plus HP out of stock forged rods with peaning and cryo:

> John
>
>If you are looking for something a little better than stock forged rods I
>would suggest forged rods that have been cryo.tempered and heat treated.
>They are about 25% stronger than stock forged rods. We have them in motors
>that are 600 + hp. and they do well. I still would not use them if you are
>considering using nitrous or really going extreme. The next step up would
>be billet rods. We are in the process of designing our own billet rods .Not
>sure where we will be at on price yet. The cryoed rods are 600.00 a set
>ready to go in your motor.
Carson Stauffer
Not a bad way to go either... But you still have stock rods and I have seen plenty of trucks running between the 4-500 level for a long time on stock rods with nothing done to them, and just headstuds and valve springs. I know there are several others a lot higher then 500 that are still going... but at that level it could be anytime..
 
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Layson
Not a bad way to go either... But you still have stock rods and I have seen plenty of trucks running between the 4-500 level for a long time on stock rods with nothing done to them, and just headstuds and valve springs. I know there are several others a lot higher then 500 that are still going... but at that level it could be anytime..
What you got in yours for rods Steve?
 
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 06:41 PM
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What you got in yours for rods Steve?

just stock forged rods.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by fordzilla01
Only problem with that point is that I don't want to blow it up here @ home either... one more exploding engine = cost of good rods the first time plus more.

I figure, if I put good rods, I can rely on it for years to come, and put more power at it if I so choose, and not have to be in fear of throwing a rod.

An interesting comment from a company claiming 600plus HP out of stock forged rods with peaning and cryo:

> John
>
>If you are looking for something a little better than stock forged rods I
>would suggest forged rods that have been cryo.tempered and heat treated.
>They are about 25% stronger than stock forged rods. We have them in motors
>that are 600 + hp. and they do well. I still would not use them if you are
>considering using nitrous or really going extreme. The next step up would
>be billet rods. We are in the process of designing our own billet rods .Not
>sure where we will be at on price yet. The cryoed rods are 600.00 a set
>ready to go in your motor.
Carson Stauffer
Wow!! That's a great way to go! That's what I'd do, and maybe a girdle to keep the block from coming apart. Then I could us *all* of my injectors!! Time to start saving for a rebuild. I wonder how long my TransGo'ed tranny will hold up? *knocks on wood*
 
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 07:02 PM
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I don't know.. If I were to stick a girdle in, then I would get a real set of rods!!
 
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 10:38 PM
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I think this is my chance to get some real rods and just get it done... Knowing myself, I will find a reason to do more down the road, and I'd hate to be limited by rods...
 
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