I read an article about the new 6.7, and it was saying that it was a big challenge to get this new BIG displacement engine in existing trucks to do testing. LOL i always thought 7.3>6.7, DUH.

 

think about how long AND tall a straight 6 that's 6.7 liters is

 

I guess i didn't realize it was an I-6, that's awesome.

 

I looked under the hood of a new SD truck and was surprised how little room there is. Nothing like our OBS trucks.

 

I think he was referring to the Cummins. The Ford is still a V-8

People have been saying that for decades. Each new generation of motors seems to get more cramped under the hood. If you think my truck is bad, stop by a dealership and peek under the hood of the new 6.4. Then ask yourself how long would it take me to change the serpentine belt in this truck, and could I even do it?

We may have finally reached the limit on how much junk you can cram under the hood. You could toss a hand full of marbles under the hood of a new truck and I'd be surprised if any hit the ground.

Our engine compartment might be a little tighter, but at least we don't have to do this to work on them

 

Dang it i actually like I-6 diesels better than V-8 diesels, but my OBS 7.3 has to be about the best V-8 diesel i've seen.

 

Chris I think you misunderstood me the '09 was what I was talking about having no room. Your '02 and our OBS trucks have loads of room compareably. As you say thought could be worse we could be driving Econolines with diesels. Try working on an ambulance, HA!

 

We have a few guys with vans in our section and they seem to be able to get things done Justin. One just changed out a couple of injectors since the vans have the rear access cover to remove.

You're right about the 08 / 09's though. I've looked under the hood and that's the reason I don't own one. If the designers had any sense at all (which we know they don't), and the truck market is not what it used to be, they'd change the new 6.7 trucks to a tilt forward hood configuration like they use on the 650's so you could actually do something under there. Of course this would make it difficult for my ranch hand bumper to fit, but if they won't offer the options I want with a stick shift anyway, I could really care less about what they do with those things. (I'm still pissed about the lack of available options on the 6.4 if you want a stick).

 

Let alone if you wanted to buy a bare-bones F150 with a stick, not offered at all.

 

That cab off picture looks familiar. I did head studs and gaskets on a 6blow a few weeks ago. Nice and easy to do with the cab off.

Tomorrow I get to do an injector in a 06 6blow e-450 minibus. Thats not gonna be fun at all! 2.5 hours to do a belt by the book so an injector is gonna be just a blast!

 

What's the book rate on a 6.4 belt Tim? Is it as simple as removing the fan shroud and replacing it, or is it worse than that?

 

Half an hour for the belt. Did some other looking around and it doesn't seem too bad. 6.7 hours for injectors. Not bad I'd say. I think the cab comes off very easy. No bolts in the from the inside, one or two large electrical connectors.

Shoot the 6.0 head gaskets are like a 24 hour labor charge!

 

18 hours of cussing the designer and 6 hours of work?

Thanks for the info.

 

I'll have to add my .02 since I've owned both. IMO the best of the two, since it's the latest version of the SD 7.3 psd, with 03.25 being the last but no real changes, and a 1997 OBS PSD, being the last OBS PSD.

I like the looks of the OBS, sometimes a little more than the SD depending on how I look at it. The last OBS 92-96/7, not sure why. I had no problems, real or theoretical, with the TTB, even tho a lot of people do. Rode well, handled well. Towed well. Truck being lighter with same GVW was a bonus. I don't have an opinion of drum vs disc rear brakes. The drums worked well, better feel than dics IMO. Vacuum brakes so the power steering always works. Serviceable front wheel bearings were nice. Since I had the last year of the OBS trucks, I got a lot of modern updates such as prewired trailer brake wiring, washer/wipers on stalk, remote keyless entry.

I like the seating and cab of the SD better, I just fit better. My truck is jacked up over a normal SD anyway, so I can't compare the height thing. I think my old 97 (i sold it to a friend) sits and rides like a car, so I don't see any water in the argument the SD rides like a car. I like the rear doors on the supercab, and the back seat is better. I like having one gas tank. I like my front tow hooks. I think air bags are a bonus. I like my big mirrors, I don't like vent windows. I find them noisy and they make it very easy to break into the truck.

Even though the SD world hates them, my Auto hubs are far better than the OBS auto hubs.

For the ABS haters, it's not perfect. But there is no way you can independently modulate wheel lockup as fast and accurately as ABS does. Period. Sometimes it doesn't work well in snow, or loose gravel, so a manual override should be allowed. I'm a decent driver and ABS has saved my *** more than once.

And the heavier weight comes from things like bigger brakes, stronger frame, bigger cab.

 

If you think the OBS rides more like a car than your superduty you are nuts. I ride in both often and my obs rides like a "truck" and I love it. The sd is way more car. Vent windows are awesome! I don't know how much stronger the frame is but the "powerful suspension" is not a comparison to my 97