Old Body Style wins hands down. In 1987 when I was shopping for a new vehicle, the F350 CrewCab was something special. A very roomy interior, nice big headlights in the correct location, good engine access. Get rid of the chrome window trim and the vent windows and it would be almost perfect.

The only things I find that are better on the current vehicle is the heated seats and the towing mirrors (door mounted without all the old holes and struts). I have yet to find a vehicle that produces enough heat for a real Canadian winter.

The 2009 I have is very cramped due to the bulky steering column, ridiculous massive dashboard, and the enormous transmission hump. I find it hard to believe how a vehicle that consumes so much road space can have so little fixed storage space. The armrest storage is a joke as everything slides around when it is pivoted. The door pockets are large, but only worthwhile for map books as everything else will slide back and forth. The floor pan is humped up under all the seats, so little can be stored there.

WTF is wrong with having seat mounted armrests and a large storage bin on the floor? The current body style is so cramped how can anyone consider it to be a six passenger vehicle?

In my last vehicle I could keep tons of handy stuff: jumper cables, 50' extension cord, 12 ratchet straps, 20 bungee cords, crowbar, shovel, bag of salt, old jacket , first aid kit and more, all under or behind the rear seat.

 

bet my truck vs a super duty the same model w/ manual tranny and the same mods and i bet i spank on that SD.. hahaha. in my opinion the OBS trucks are just work horses where the SD's have more things to break and weren't made to work like the OBS trucks were. Don't get me wrong, i have thought about buying a SD and i probably would if i was rich, but i'm not and i don't need all those fancy things in my truck. The SD are pretty nice trucks, but when i see an OBS all cleaned up i could stare at it for days with out moving!! unlike the SD's i would just say huh, that's a pretty nice lookin' truck.

i prefer the feel of the OBS's wayy over the SD's that i have driven also.. i guess if i could have one of each i would do it, but i can't so OBS it is!!!! haha

 

Have both. Upsides and downsides to both. But I like the OBS over the SD myself.

 

I am NOT NUTS!

Well really I am, but not about the way the two trucks I OWNED RIDE!

It comes down to how they are setup. The truck I currently own has much heavier springs in the front. My old one didn't. I know, I ordered them and installed them.

Point being, there is nothing inherent about the OBS that makes it ride harder, there fore making it MORE OF A TRUCK or somehow inherently better.

It's easy to have a capable vehicle that is noise, smoky, rides rough etc. The challenge is getting one that is refined, rides well in all situations, quite, and just as capable as anything else out there.

The guy I sold my 97 to loves it. I didn't. I've also owned a 6.0 and would probably never go back. But there are plenty of guys who love those too!

 

Stage 1's in an OBS against an SD with stage 1's or stock SD?
SD will work just as hard as your OBS I'm sure of it. What is there to break on an SD that the OBS doesn't have?

 

im gonna have to give superdutys some credit because the first diesel i rode in was a 03 7.3 with lots of mods a rich young farmer had it down in kentucky [one of my buddys friends] well they took me for a ride in it and i was instantly hooked that was by far the fastest truck id ever rode in so i struggled my way to gettin me a obs 7.3 psd i paid 2200 for it from my uncle and i love my truck but if it werent for that superduty id still be in the dark about diesels

 

got me a pretty beast truck now though this thing runs strong i just reached in my glovebox the otherday and grabbed one of my old resistors idk which one i got though and through it on my truck along with my tw chip i got more black smoke more power no flat spots in powerband or cel and i am hitting 25-26 pounds of boost shifting myself

 

Hell, if you're really that interested in my tail lights I'll meet you in Greenville.

 

the OBS is anywhere from 400-1000 lbs lighter, which will cause it to win in a race which is what he's talking about... my truck weighs a tad under 7000 depending on fuel... with 2 full tanks probably around 7050, with 1 full and 1 empty i know it weighs 6980... and my truck is pretty heavy for an OBS
an SD weighs probably closer to 7500

 

I sure get a kick out of this thread. You guys are so funny. Will be watching for more good input.

 

hes also talking about how you get more power from stage 1's in an OBS than you do in a SD. if you look at any place that sells injectors for stage 1's it will say something like up to 125 extra horsepower on OBS and up to 75 extra horsepower on SD. you dont see as big of a performance gain out of the SD as you do in the OBS with the same mods. the SD comes from the factory with more power, but once you start modding it, that factory rating doesnt mean crap. and then throw in your point about the weight difference and the OBS will win every time if they have the same mods.

 

So, if we both get 125 hp injectors, keeping it the same, you will outrun a SD??? I think not.

 

you misread my post. and the post of the guy that said with the same mods an OBS will outrun a SD. this is directly from the website of a place that sells injectors. this is for stage 1's. read it carefully. and then tell me "i think not"

160cc International High Output AC Code injectors. These injectors are capable of up to an additional 140hp in the 94-97 trucks and up to 50hp on the 99-03 trucks.



what that means is that with stage 1's you are going to see a bigger performance gains out of the OBS than you will with the SD. you may start out with more power, but once we both put a set of stage 1's in our truck we are going to end up with the same power. and our trucks are lighter. so same power+lighter truck=faster in the 1/4 mile......

no one said that if we both put 125 hp injectors on our trucks that we will outrun the superduty. if we wanted to get 125 more hp out of ours we would go with stage 1's whereas you would have to go with stage 2's. and that is NOT two trucks with the same mods. read the following description for stage 2's...... we are saying an OBS with stage 1's will outrun a SD with stage 1's and NOT that an OBS with 125 more hp will outrun a SD with 125 more HP.

160cc Power Stroke injectors with LARGER 7 hole Power Stroke nozzles. These injectors are capable of up to an additional 190hp in the 94-97 trucks and up to 120hp on the 99-03 trucks.

 

and if you want to get real technical about it look at the possible hp numbers with each injector and then add it to the stock hp the trucks came with. ours came with 225 hp and the SD came with 250. lets look at stage 1's first. 225+140=365hp for the OBS. 250+50=300hp for the SD. stage 2's for the OBS is 225+190=415. with the SD it is 250+120=370. so even with just having stage 1's the OBS is capable of making just as much hp as the SD with stage 2's......

 

I see what you are saying, but from what I have read on the injector sales. They say with supporting mods and tuning you can achieve that HP. Now which truck will have to have the most supporting mods and more tuning to achieve this? For instance, the HPOP, would you have to go with Big Oil, or find a 99,5-03 HPOP to get the HP results they are saying?