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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 08:45 PM
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Now you've gone and done it.

Dyno Proven...LOL
 
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 08:56 PM
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My boost went from 27 to 30. No other changes except the ATS.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CSIPSD
Dyno Proven...LOL
What was proven? Has it been proven that a WW makes more flow than a late wheel?
 
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Tenn01PSD350
What was proven? Has it been proven that a WW makes more flow than a late wheel?
WW Flows less then the stocker... ATS housing flows the same as the stocker... Its still a 3" intake, just a ported 3" intake.

No more air goes thru the ported section.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by CSIPSD
WW Flows less then the stocker... ATS housing flows the same as the stocker... Its still a 3" intake, just a ported 3" intake.

No more air goes thru the ported section.
I'm with you now. So a WW in a ATS housing flows less than the stock late wheel in the same housing, yet reduces the surge too? Or are you saying due to housing size it is a wash. Before you answer, think real hard about factory HP #s and wheel sizes. I might need to think real hard about my math too.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 03:29 AM
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I recently picked up a van turbo, I was thinking of polishing up the compresor housing since the ATS is so expensive. Is the ATS really worth the cost or even needed with the van turbo?
 
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 06:59 AM
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In a word, yes, it's worth it. I don't care what they say above, my boost has gone up with the stock wheel in the ATS. Before, I was getting ~27 (stock wheel in stock housing), now I'm able to hit 30. I've NEVER seen 30 before, and I've had stock turbo with stock wheel, stock turbo with WW, and van turbo with stock wheel. Haven't tride van turbo with WW, or ATS with WW, but from all accounts, the WW reduces boost some (I saw that when I put it on my truck). I lost 1-2psi going to the WW in the stock turbo.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 08:19 AM
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In a word, yes, it's worth it. I don't care what they say above, my boost has gone up with the stock wheel in the ATS. Before, I was getting ~27 (stock wheel in stock housing), now I'm able to hit 30. I've NEVER seen 30 before, and I've had stock turbo with stock wheel, stock turbo with WW, and van turbo with stock wheel. Haven't tride van turbo with WW, or ATS with WW, but from all accounts, the WW reduces boost some (I saw that when I put it on my truck). I lost 1-2psi going to the WW in the stock turbo.
The reason your boost went up is because the surge was choking the turbo, not because of added airflow. The ATS housing does not flow more air. It is symply a ported housing.

I never said the ATS housing was not worth it, its the best fix for surge on the stock turbo. The WW is a waste of money IMHO... I have run every combo of stock turbo and the best set up was a 1.00 housing, stock wheel and a ATS housing. But that being said there is NO added airflow from the ATS housing.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by CSIPSD
The reason your boost went up is because the surge was choking the turbo, not because of added airflow. The ATS housing does not flow more air. It is symply a ported housing.

I never said the ATS housing was not worth it, its the best fix for surge on the stock turbo. The WW is a waste of money IMHO... I have run every combo of stock turbo and the best set up was a 1.00 housing, stock wheel and a ATS housing. But that being said there is NO added airflow from the ATS housing.
So since you have a bit more experience, will the ATS housing make higher boost more reliable. That's what 'm looking for, I don't want to go for anything to expensive but I do want to be able to boost into the 30psi zone. Obviously not always but at a few well chosen moments.
 
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 07:55 PM
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Whats the best bang for my buck on gainning a few extra horses?
 
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by CSIPSD
The reason your boost went up is because the surge was choking the turbo, not because of added airflow. The ATS housing does not flow more air. It is symply a ported housing.

I never said the ATS housing was not worth it, its the best fix for surge on the stock turbo. The WW is a waste of money IMHO... I have run every combo of stock turbo and the best set up was a 1.00 housing, stock wheel and a ATS housing. But that being said there is NO added airflow from the ATS housing.
So let me re-state what you're saying: The ATS flows more because "surge" kept the stock housing from flowing more. In other words, it flows more than the stock housing. LOL....

However, I had NO surge with the van turbo & stock housing. The only time I heard the surge "chuffa" is when I hammered the throttle, then let off it. NEVER got surge with the stock housing unless I was letting off the throttle. So, I don't think it was surge "choking" the turbo.
 
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