The Sioux are cancelling all their treaties with the US and going 'self rule.'


So what happens with the real estate? (four or five states that is Lakota Sioux land.)

Josh, does this mean you join the Indian Nation?

Or is there trouble ahead? I don't know how this works, are they only asking for their reservations? If they are cancelling all treaties, does that mean there are no reservations?

 

This could get interesting, don't really have a lot to add to it other then I am pretty sure they can't legally do it but hey why not.
Other than that just want to see where this goes.

 

I wonder if they have enough guns, and who funded it?

 

Yeah, it's a news flash to me.

But the US is famous for not upholding it's end of agreements with the indigenous people so I can't see why they shouldn't bail. Just very curious how this pans out.

 

They claimed the island in the middle of San Francisco bay as a protest at one point.
Will this come out any better?

It seems AIM has new leaders.

 

I dunno. Here is a link, with links. http://www.lakotafreedom.com/

 

personal opinion is as more and more people get fed up with over bearing government your going to see more and more of this type of thing. For the most part it will not amount to much until it quites being fringe thinking and become mainstream then watch out. But hopefully those in power will see it coming and wise up first (I have my doubts on that though)

 

Enough said?

 

i think there should be a few of us goin to help them,after all there the first one with enuff cahonys to say lets take it back. how long is it going to take the rest of use to do the same?

 

Right up to the point they have a major disaster or cannot handle something "big" then they will want the Fed Gov to step in and fix it....selective independents.....

 

In 1869, the US Gov't made a treaty with Sioux leader Red Cloud. Part of the treaty involved the Black Hills, which the Sioux considered sacred. The Gov't ceded the Black Hills to the Sioux for all eternity, which lasted until 1874, when an massive land survey expedition commanded by Lt. Col (brevet General) George Armstrong Custer found gold there.

The Black Hills were soon over-run with miners, grafters, land speculators, women of ill repute...etc. The Gov't tried buying the Black Hills from the Sioux, but they said no. The Gov't later forced them to accept 2 cents an acre for the land.

The failure of the Gov't to enforce their own treaty with the Sioux led to the one of the worst defeats of the US Army at that time, the Battle of the Little Big Horn, June 25, 1876. Custer and 230 men under his command died that fateful day.

This was the only time during the Indian Wars when tribes united to fight for what they believed was right.

Besides the Lakota Sioux, there were: Sans Arc, Brule, Northern Cheyenne and Arapaho tribes represented.

 

After reading what I posted above (taken from the originally linked Lakota site), I honestly believe that this has nothing to do with the Lakota all of a sudden realizing that they got screwed in some treaty from well over 100 years ago.

This is outside governments (Russia and who else?) meddling and trying to embarass the U.S. Government. They say in their site that they will soon be announcing the land they are claiming - be interesting to see what that includes. It will also be interesting to see what other nations have their fingers in this - Iran? Venezuela?

It's almost comical that they want total sovereignty - are they prepared to actually stand up and fight or are they going to get their friends the Russians to do so? That is where it would get interesting - the Russians et al, after signing a treaty with the Lakota attempting to provide military support. How would they get men and materiel onto the Sioux land? By air? By Interstate highway? By rail? Or by sea? Maybe the Lakota plan on claiming all the land all the way to the Pacific Ocean, or claiming the land that a couple of major airports are built on.

I think the Lakota have been hitting the peace pipe or the fire water a little too hard lately.

 

Screwed ain't the word for it: Read what I typed above in Post #11.

btw: While Lakota is correct, Sioux is a French word which means foe or enemy.

French fur trappers gave them the name Sioux.

Y'all have heard of one fur trader and explorer, or at least the car named after him.

Walter de la Motte Cadillac was the founder of Detroit.

 

I read post 11 since I always try to read every post in a thread before I jump in.

So, 100+ years later what are we supposed to do? Just give them all the land that they want?

My point is that they suddenly have some foreign nations wanting to find another way to try to undermine our national security and they are just now realizing that they were treated unfairly?

What is your proposed solution? They got screwed, shafted, hosed, expletived....but it wasn't by the folks living on the land that they want. Do you now want to uproot them?

Like I said, and firmly believe, this is nothing but these external government trying to stir up some trouble.

Didn't most so-called Native Americans come to North America via Russia? Maybe Putin and the gang need to look a little closer to home and find these folks their true ancestral stomping ground and give them some oil-rich areas.

 

This is not the result of something that happened a hundred years ago. This is the result of dealing with the BIA every day of their lives for the past hundred years.

As far as treaties with other nations are concerned, it's not about military assistance. It's about support in the UN and the OAS.