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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by rangerfan
I read all 4 pages and couldn't help but laugh at some of the comments. I was driving through nothern Wyoming a few years ago along I94 I believe and got gas on a reservation.

After that I lost all respect for them. I kept getting bothered by pan handlers and a few were just plain drunk and this was at around 10AM. I don't recall seeing one at normal or average weight. It must be nice to sit around and do nothing all day and get subsidized for it.

So you want me to feel sorry for the Indians? No freaking way.

Flame on.

This reminds me of the joke:

"All Indians are drunken stumble bums. At least the one I saw was."
 
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 12:31 PM
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Bill you might want to go read my post again the next sentence states that THIS country is the first in history.
And a territory is different from a state which makes it outside the US official border.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 01:00 PM
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I never said the 'Indians' were treated fair.....Despite Mr. Ken's book club suggestion a la Oprah Winfrey to read the Trail of Tears, I think that they were royally screwed.
You split hairs about where and how people were exterminated (more than once) and somehow that makes my suggestion an Oprah book club suggestion?
 
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by rangerfan
I read all 4 pages and couldn't help but laugh at some of the comments. I was driving through nothern Wyoming a few years ago along I94 I believe and got gas on a reservation.
If you drive into Chicago, stop at a gas station and get pan-handled by a bunch of drunk whites or blacks, would you lose respect for the entire race based on interaction with a small handful?

After that I lost all respect for them. I kept getting bothered by pan handlers and a few were just plain drunk and this was at around 10AM.
Considering you have a beer mug avatar, how can I possibly take those remarks seriously?
 

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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 01:27 PM
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I enjoy beer but havent been drunk in years. There is a thing called responsible drinking.

I've been through Chicago many times. Don't remember being bugged once.

Why should I feel sorry for them when they don't have to work or pay taxes?

Also, all of there medicine is paid for by the US tax payers. Must be nice. Oh wait...I'm suppose to feel white guilt. NOT!
 

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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by rangerfan

I've been through Chicago many times. Don't remember being bugged once.
See? You just don't know the right places in Chicago! Or is it that you never slowed down below eighty mph on your way through?
 
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by rangerfan
I read all 4 pages and couldn't help but laugh at some of the comments. I was driving through nothern Wyoming a few years ago along I94 I believe and got gas on a reservation.

After that I lost all respect for them. I kept getting bothered by pan handlers and a few were just plain drunk and this was at around 10AM. I don't recall seeing one at normal or average weight. It must be nice to sit around and do nothing all day and get subsidized for it.

So you want me to feel sorry for the Indians? No freaking way.

Flame on.
Sorry but i have to agree with you.Your "native Americans',sound like the lazy ones we have around my home town in Alberta.we dont get much out of them,for the money the goverment invests monthly for them.Just posting what i see here.lots of jobs in Alberta,but we cant make them work.A real shame it is.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by rangerfan
I've been through Chicago many times. Don't remember being bugged once.
You are kidding right? I know areas of Chicago that the cops will tell you to blow the stop signs and lights cause they will jump up on the running board of a truck and rob you at gun point while you sit there (I drive a truck for a living) Man all you have to do is take a drive down Ciero Ave sometime, although I don't suggest you do it at night.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by rangerfan
I read all 4 pages and couldn't help but laugh at some of the comments. I was driving through nothern Wyoming a few years ago along I94 I believe and got gas on a reservation.

After that I lost all respect for them. I kept getting bothered by pan handlers and a few were just plain drunk and this was at around 10AM. I don't recall seeing one at normal or average weight. It must be nice to sit around and do nothing all day and get subsidized for it.

So you want me to feel sorry for the Indians? No freaking way.

Flame on.
After I read this post, I lost all respect for people from southeastern Indiana, since I know the only Reservation in Wyoming is Wind River, which is in the center of the state and not near any interstate.
 

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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by FTE Ken
You split hairs about where and how people were exterminated (more than once)
This whole thread is a good example of splitting hairs......

I was addressing concentration camps vs reservations. Was the trail of tears 'extermination' forced deportation an effort to exploit slave labor and actual extermination of an entire race of people?.....

Originally Posted by FTE Ken
and somehow that makes my suggestion an Oprah book club suggestion?
Yup.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by rangerfan
I read all 4 pages and couldn't help but laugh at some of the comments. I was driving through nothern Wyoming a few years ago along I-90 I believe and got gas on a reservation.

After that I lost all respect for them. I kept getting bothered by pan handlers and a few were just plain drunk and this was at around 10AM. I don't recall seeing one at normal or average weight. It must be nice to sit around and do nothing all day and get subsidized for it.

So you want me to feel sorry for the Indians? No freaking way.

Flame on.
Fixed. I-94 goes from Billlings to Canada, through ND, MN, WI, IL, IN and MI.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by rangerfan
I enjoy beer but havent been drunk in years. There is a thing called responsible drinking.
You missed my point. My point was making a generalization is often wrong.

I've been through Chicago many times. Don't remember being bugged once.
Again... you missed my point entirely. I wasn't being literal. I was drawing an analogy to judging an entire race based on interaction with a few individuals while getting gas.
 

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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 03:08 PM
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Russ the problem is Clux is right no interstate goes anywhere near the wind river indian reservation. I should have caught that since I used to live in Wyoming but glad someone did.
I do have to say even with my what many would call negative posts we have indian reservations in Iowa and I have been in that area a lot and you know actually I think there is fewer bars and drunks in Tama then most other smaller communities in the area including or especially the town i live in (4000 people 6 bars) and since Wyoming was brought up how about laramie, 36 drive up liquor stores in a town of 25000 people and at least when I lived there it wasn't an indian reservation.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 03:42 PM
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(snip) and since Wyoming was brought up how about laramie, 36 drive up liquor stores in a town of 25000 people and at least when I lived there it wasn't an indian reservation.
Go easy on Laramie, after all it is a college town.
Which reminds me of the time I lost all respect for both college students and football fans in Laramie, since they were just plain drunk at about 10:00 in the morning..........and now you just made me lose all respect for myself, since I was one of them..........I hate it when that happens.
 

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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 03:46 PM
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Go easy on Laramie, it is after all it is a college town.
Which reminds me of the time I lost all respect for both college students and football fans in Laramie, since they were just plain drunk at about 10:00 in the morning..........and now you just made me lose all respect for myself, since I was one of them..........I hate it when that happens.
Dang well you better go ahead and lose it for me too cause I was one of them drunk ole cowboys running around that town. except for one thing I wasn't drunk by 10am I was STILL drunk at 10 am.
 
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