Gee what do you want for proof, obviously you can read, so read Navistar is denying they owe ford for warranty costs associated with engine problems caused by the engine being run above the design parameters set forth by the engine manufacture it's in some of the reporting on it.

Beyond that you missed the entire point but then again I guess I should have expected it.

 

I believe this is a fairly accurate statement and YOU interpret it to mean that Ford is running the engine above design parameters and Navistar is denying owing Ford for warranty costs. BUT, NO WHERE does it specifically say what you claim it to prove.
In a nutshell Navistar's claim is that Ford and its dealers are warranting engines and components that have been modified and sending Navistar the bill.
Please direct us to a reliable source that specifically states that Ford cranked up the power and rpm range of every 6.0 installed in Ford light trucks beyond design parameters and without Navistars approval.

 

Once again

 

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Beyond that you missed the entire point but then again I guess I should have expected it.
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Oh I believe I see your point, I just believe it to be bogus.

 

how can teh point of STOP BASHING OTHER USERS be bogus.

So obviously no you don't see the point.

Instead of seeing what I am trying to say you turn it into a bash on me because I said something against ford. get real will you everything I have posted has been written before has been stated by many, many, many other people is listed in news articles (yes you have to read between the lines) and is obvious beyond a doubt and still is NOT THE POINT.

So one more time for the record STOP BASHING ON OTHER USERS.

 

OK, Sorry, I guess I could have seen that point far more clearly if it wasn't wrapped up inside all your nonsensical ramblings and assumptions.

 

You can read dozens of threads where others have modified their exhaust system on this forum and others, if you have not seen them you have not been reading the forum. He has stated numerous times that the tuner was not installed and was not going to be installed until he got the custom files from Spartan, and Spartan has not released them yet! He also stated before the first head gasket issue that he had not installed the tuner. I use my truck for work and I have 15k miles on it. I guess I don't own one either. Mine has been in the shop several times for little items also. Three times for the same issue. Good thing I didn't mention that earlier you might be asking for my VIN and pictures. If Steve can afford the $40-50k truck, he can probably afford to mod it as he sees fit.
Why hasn't he posted any pics? I don't know maybe he doesn't have a digital camera, maybe he doesn't feel the need to prove he owns what he says he owns.
I usually like your posts but I think this has gone beyond rediculous.

 

So you can't name any specifically that have removed their DPF successfully without a tuner?
Believe me, I have read these forums extensively and I can't either.

Also please note that I have never once stated that he does not own the truck.

"If Steve can afford the $40-50k truck, he can probably afford to mod it as he sees fit."

I am in complete agreement on this one.


And on 8-23 he posted this;

"Im creating my album right now

Cowboy Steve"

 

He's been working out that "album" for months.............
Just out of the same curiousity that people get when viewing something like a train wreck, I would also like to see the vehicle in question and put the mystery to an end.
Take a minute and post a single pic of your truck Steve.
Everyone takes pics of a new vehicle so you must have at least one image to share. Forget about the album and just use photobucket, it will take all of two minutes.............

 

and his posting a picture would prove exactly what? I could claim I own one of if not the fastest Ford Ranger on this web site if not in the country and can post pics too and unless you know me and can verify that as my yard etc it doesn't prove squat except that I can post pictures and to those that do know me I don't have to prove anything. so the only thing that would be proof would be for him to post the VIN, his full name and address and the plate number of his vehicle on here, and personally if someone would ask me to do that I would be more than willing right after you post your SSN, full name and date and location of birth, with your mothers maiden name too.

 

You are right.
I will wait for the album. More personal this way.

 

I have read stories both ways. They took it off and it was fine and also they took it off and it was throwing codes. Personally I think it would throw codes, but Steve is not the only one that I have read that said it was fine. What I was really saying was that I was not going to take the time to search for them. You should remember the guy that had his straight piped with no DPF, everyone was ooooing and aaahhingg over his truck and then it got T-boned and totaled. If you don't want to admit it or don't want to remember it, thats fine.

Maybe it is taking him awhile to create an album, who cares? And for Saskdiesel--I have not taken any pics of my 08.

If you believe he has the truck, then you don't believe he straight piped it? Or do you believe he piped it, but he was throwing codes when he said he wasn't? What exactly is a pic going to prove? The only reason you would be demanding pics in order for him to redeem himself is that you don't believe he even owns the truck.

Apparently Steve makes it to quite a few other sites and says the same stuff. I guess the good thing is that all his fabrications are consistent.

And as far as a VIN # goes I would not give that out to anyone either. I don't know what they can or can't do with it, but IMO they have no reason to have it and I have no reason to give it.

I am with Monster on this one, there is no reason to be bashing the guy. The most I have seen is him bragging about his truck. There have been a lot of things he has posted that I took a different view to, but basically calling him a liar and making him prove he owns the truck is rediculous.

 

Actually...I agree that YOU missed the point. As a matter...you are still missing it based on the last few posts in this thread.

...but then...I should have expected it.


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and biz since you are the almighty know everything wizzard of all this is posted on teh internet mind reading guru exactly what was the point I was making?

And if you say it's defending Steve your wrong I actually don't even usually get along with the guy, but what I am sick of and started standing up against is hypocrites

And to the constant demanding proof BS your right, lets see any of you PROVE that steve doesn't own this truck, and since the issue I brought up seems to be such a hot topic, just one of you prove that all or even most of, oh heck even a few of the issues with the 6.0L wasn't caused by fords modifications (I can giveone proof right off the bad, the injector issues early on were cured by a reprograming of FORDS engine managment programing)

 

Dude...you need to stop bashing! Not nice...especially for a moderator.

*** Thread Closed 4 me *** unless something worth reading has been added to this thread. See ya...around FTE.


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