Originally Posted by P51D Mustang

Yes, it would be nice to match up the Ford with the Cummins motor, but seriously I don't mind pulling with the 6.0 PSD that much at all. I still just prefer to tow with the Ford. I think it's mostly that I like the rest of the Ford truck better. If I had to live with one truck day in and day out it would be the Ford. The Dodges that I find myself in, are fine trucks in their own right, but there's just something about the Ford.

The Cummins motors have more grunt, there's no question, but in some recent pulling trips with our 06 Ford, I didn't find the PSD lacking. You just have to shift it sooner-never it let it fall below 2,000 rpm.

This 6.0 gets significantly better fuel milege than the 6.7's, empty or towing, and at over 40k we havn't had any problems at all-none.

I talked to a guy the other day that puts 120k on a truck a year, almost all pulling. He has over 70k on an 08 PSD already(no problems BTW). He has to buy a new one every year or two. He usually alternates between Ford and Dodge, not even considering GM. He is thinking about going back to Dodge next time, although he feels that the 6.4 is indeed a major improvement over the 6.0. However, he finds his 08 PSD kind of a pig on fuel. I told him that the 6.7 is too. It really is. Were we used to get 12-14 towing with the older 5.9's, the 6.7 gets about 10, doing the same work. Empty milege is okay (probably just as good), but when you put em to work, it's a whole new ball game.

Maybe this a problem with all the 07 and up diesels?

One of the 6.7 loaded Dodges I use, has had the check engine light come on several times. It's always the EGR sensor. They flashed it last time, and I did notice about a 1mpg improvement in mpg's across the board.

Originally Posted by 24Vford

all the new emission diesels are poor when it comes to fuel mileage

Originally Posted by bfloyd4445

The stroke is longer and the rods are larger bcause each cylinder must have more displacement because the cummins only has six cylinders instead of eight to do the same work.. The draw back of the long stroke is that it will take longer to wind up while the short stroke engine will zip right on up there. In a gasser the short strokers are always the fast guys but in D its different. I'll bet in the future you will see the dmax and psd with the land speed records and the cummings for the sled pulling records. All engineering. I'm toying with the idea of a cummins three banger in a ford ranger.

Originally Posted by origcharger

The 6.0 is only programming away from having more low end grunt than the Cummins, the International truck version (VT365) developed its peak torque at 1400 rpm.

Originally Posted by dawg 21

ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT 1400 RPM FIGURE?????

Originally Posted by rmo1

In that case I would opt for the Cummins. More low-end grunt. Don't care about beating another guy off the "line".

MMM. Wonder what the tow capacity would be on a F350 with a Cummins in it? Would it be the same as a PSD? Guess the trans has a lot to do with the tow rating (along with other factors).

Originally Posted by rollerstud98

probably end up being less because the cummins is a heavier motor

Originally Posted by Lead Head

I'm pretty sure its correct, but don't forget that tune limits max RPM to around 2600-3000, maybe even lower. The dodge cummins peaks at 1600, but I'm fairly certain like the international as well, that the other 5.9s/6.7s will peak lower.

Originally Posted by SVLERF250PWRSTRKE

The inter-trash-onal engine is okay. The cummins sounds so much better than our powerchokes. lol I thought I would include all of the sayings my (Dodge owners) family uses around the lone Ford driver

Originally Posted by 24Vford

with all the problems the 6.7 is haveing it is still hands down the best light truck diesel out their

andthe cummins is alread 2010 compliant

Originally Posted by diesel_dan

Get some of them to buy new 6.7s and you'll be the one having the last laugh -- even on their own forums the 5.9 guys are thrashing the 6.7ers, and all the new problems they're having: turbo, flashes, DPF...