i understand that the new psd's are getting some good reviews, my opinion is that i would not waste my money on these new diesels. i have driven diesels my whole life. a short time as i am only 24. i work in the oilfield and see a lot of these discussions. if it was me i would stick with the 7.3L most durable diesel ford has designed. as for cummins,... well i love the 5.9L! i am one who likes to get more out of my motors. dodge trucks are not up to the task of taking on a diesel motor. the ford superduty is made to handle the torque of the PSD. as of right now i am putting a cummins into my superduty. the cummins will get better as it gets broke in. so if you are a person that fills it up and drives it down the road than stick to the PSD.

 

I agree.
The 6.7 is actually rated for the next tier of emissions the 6.4 is not. Meaning cummins leapfrogged.
Something else worth mentioning that little guinea pig fooferah wasnt necessary. The 7.3 was good for another year. They released the 6.0 in the middle of union contract issues. They had bunch of problems with the injectors, c94 was the 4th revision and it still wasnt fixxed, so they released c95s for the first 100k engines released. Basically all the problems from the 6.0 were preventable, the engine was only released for bragging rights and by all accounts it wasnt thru its teething issues.
Not important but I read a study that men buy chassis and women buy engines. So yes and no.
I had the opposite experience. Ive had health issues for years and the stiffer ride of the ford fatigued me out much faster. Not sure about the wandering as I rarely towed over 18k gross and I didnt find an issue with either truck. This is noteworthy because my fatigue threshold is much lower so I would notice the problem much sooner.
Chevy is 1000lbs lighter but can tow pretty heavy also. The number crunchers would never let them overrate the capabilities. If it couldnt do it they couldnt rate it. Otherwise why not just make the frame a little heavier and rate it to 35k gross and run home with the braggin rights trophy to show the kids and wife.

 

I don't know if this will shut this thread down, but I bought an '02 F350 CC LB SRW yesterday. It only has 60,000 miles and is a peach. All the 6.0's that were in this truck's price range had a long list of items on the Oasis report. Most of the 7.3's were clean as was this one's.

Thanks to all who piped in. The main "thing" that kept me on the Ford side was the help, candor, and civility on this forum! Some (not all) of the Dodge posters were rude (UNDERSTATEMENT). I look forward to more years of being in the FTE community!!

 

Coming from a Dodge/Cummins owner, I'm sorry that you had a bunch of dickwads who left a bad impression. Sounds like a nice buy though.

 

I did mention the cummins forum problems mostly to stroke the guys here. I'll be needing much help in the coming years! I did try the dieselram forum for a while, but its not as user friendly as FTE!!

It really came down to price and availablity. The Oasis reports I got from FTE helped in my decision as well. I called (so low tech!) Dodge dealers about 2 of the Cummins I looked at and they weren't sooooo happy about giving up information. There are far more Superduty's running around the Memphis area than Dodges. Thus there were more for sale. That translates in better pricing and selection.

 

Wow! Nice set up, great looking horses. I'm jealous.

 

2 cents worth. I work for the epa and remember the teething problems of the new smog cars when they came out so opted for the 07 SD with the 6.0 over the 08. I have lots of friends with dodge and Ford D's and the two dodge guys both told me to go with the Ford. Both these guys are loggers that beat there trucks and drive em till they quit. One has had tranny probs with the 5.9 under loads and the other has cracked his cab from twisting under load and has taken his 99 PSD out of retirment and now uses the dodge to make grocery runs. Oh, his 99 has taken a beating for over 200k so far without any serious problems. Of course he aint got a straight peice of metal anywhere on the truck but it still works like always. Anyway, I was all set to buy a dodge this time instead of a Ford but they talked me out of it since I'm in it for the long haul not just for a couple then into a new truck. The new D's from all the brands are sure quiet and all have added some nice features. So if your into a serious work truck that doesnt need to do the 1/4 mile in 10 seconds the Ford PSD is the only real choice. Happy huntin

 

U aint into the snout look, me neither them's ugly trucks. SD is the best looking truck and like you said the best overall truck made anywhere.

 

You might want to keep that to yourself, at least in the 6.4 forum.

 

You won't believe what the Dodge boys did! The post that I started over there and subsiquently signed off of is now "stickied" on the General Diesel page: http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/ge...el-discussion/

They did edit out the morons so it would look like they only have intellegent guys over there. I think most of them know!

 

thats pretty funny, i love the people that claim the powerstroke to be a converted gas engine since it is a V8

 

That is based off the IDI's being converted Industrial gas engines...

The PSD however shares few similarities (except its capacity) with the IDI.

 

Buddy of mine had a 6.7 company truck. Crewcab with a heavy tool bed and pulled a small excavator most of the time. Truck was in the shop all the time. My friend eventually decided it would be best he cut exhaust pipe before the particulate filter. He said he couldn't even tell the excavator was behind him after that. Long story short, that dodge was trailered back to the shop by a F550, rod out the side. Weather this was just a lemon , or cutting the exhaust off makes them blow up, I don't think I want one yet.

 

The new smog technology that the manufacturers are testing out on us at our expense is exactly why I bought an 07 instead of an 08 SD. I think what may have happened is he cut the pipe but didn't disable the sensors in the filter so the cpu adjusted parameters which took out the engine.

 

Isn't the Cummins better able to handle power upgrades then the DuraMax and PSD? I've seen pics that the connector rods were larger than the PSD's rods. Also, are the Cummins easier to work on? All I hear is cab-off for most repairs on a SuperDuty. Than can/will be expensive once the warranty has expired. Don't know much about the GM products. I hate IFS 4x4's.