well with a p-pump it will pull up to 6000rpm
how much rpm will a 6joke turn?

 

Go get a stock 6.0L Powerstroke and a stock 5.9L Cummins, put 10k behind them, get them out on the highway and see what happens. The cummins is a great engine, but at highway speeds, a dodge is a dog compared to a 6.0L Powerstroke equipped Ford.

 

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UGA, thats what i was talking about. at highway speeds the cumapart is out of its sweet spot.

 

What gearing though? I assume with the .67 OD with the 6spd manual, you probably have around 2400RPM at about 60-70, which is still within its powerband.

 

look, i dont care what the paper says. you hearing from a man that has actually towed with both.

have you?

 

We have a 06 dodge at work with a cummins, a 6 speed and 4:11 rear end in it. The 03 PSD that I used to drive at my former job doesnt compare, powerwise to the dodge. Same gearing, only difference was it had the automatic instead of a standard.

Highway speeds the dodge pulls just fine, probably better then the 6.0, and defiantly better then the 7.3. Dodge just has a crappy truck, the cummins motor is better then the navistar.

 

i have towed with both i had a 03 6.0 ford bought that pos back got an 05 it broke down with 500miles and i sold it
my cummins pulls much better than the 6.0 i have had
but i do really like the 7.3

 

I have towed with both. Spent more time towing w/ dodges than i have with my ford. I have towed with a 12v, 24v, common rail, and every variant in between. The 04 cummins w/ auto tranny at work has 160k on it. The most i have towed with it is 13.5k lbs. Around town i wouldnt tow with anything else. It takes off great. On the highway, the thing simply is a dog. I cant tell you how bad i hate to tow w/ it on the highway. Just my .02 cents.

 

I followed a white 6.0, 2005 I think, from Sacramento to Buttonwillow, that was towing a three axle fith wheel that was as long and as tall as a country mile and he never dropped below 77mph. I usually cruise down I-5 at 75 and was surprised to be passed by this guy. The santa anna's were blowing so I think he pulled off cause it wasn't recomended for trailer on the grape vine cause of the high winds. Aint never seen no dmax or cummins moving like that with such a load. Oh, that would be about 200 miles

 

There all different. I've pulled with 5.9's, 7.3's, 6.0's, and 6.7's so far.

The new 6.7's pull hard all the way to 3200 rpm. They arn't so tractor like anymore, with absolutely no dead spots from around 1200 and up. You can also just lug around at 1500 rpm loaded, if you need to. The only things I don't like about em, is their copius fuel consumption, and the fact that you have to take em in to the dealer just about once a week to get the check engine light turned off. I mean the darn light is always coming on.

We had an 03 Cummins that was all done pulling by 1700rpm, but my 97 12 valve pulls hard through 2700 rpm. It may depend on how the waste gate is set up on the Cummins. Ofton the turbo won't make more than about 18 lb's in some stock Cummins setups. You want around 30lb's available on a relatively stock 5.9. It makes a big difference. Lower boost motors seem to lay down above 2200.

The 6.0 can make around 27lb's indicated in stock trim. My brother finds the 6.0 lacking in low end, but I find it really pulls fine at highway speeds. I try to keep above 2000 rpm at all times, but it will hold on hills even down to around 1800. You'd be hard pressed to push it much past 3000, but once you get things rolling, it will pull all day long at highway speeds, keeping it between 2000 and about 2900 rpm with your gear selection. It was indicating 20mpg at 65mph the other day too, but that wasn't while pulling.

 

Hey P51, good info thanks. What about the dmax, have you towed with them for comparison. My experiance has been limited to psd's, 7,3 and 6.0 so I know nuttin. Guess what you say about the 6.0 makes sense cause Ford has made an effort to make a truck that will hang in there and get the job done when others don't.

 

Well I havn't been pulling with a DM yet...knock on wood. They have about the same pulling power as a PSD with an automatic. People don't like em much around here, however. It's all Ford and Dodge in this market. Most GM trucks seen around here are light duty with gassers. GM is generally precieved as a light duty truck around here.

They had a ton of problems when the DM first came out, and many people are still non trusting. A large diesel mechanic that we trust has told us to stay away from the DM, as he has seen a lot of problems in his company's fleet. Moreso than Ford or Dodge. I know of one guy that got one recently, because he has a bad back and thought the GM IFS would help, but I don't know how he's been getting along with it. A friend of mine got one last year, because he wanted an automatic and thought the Allison would be more reliable, but he's been having run hot problems. He lives in a hot climate, so if you live where it's hot, it probably wouldn't be a good idea.

 

No tranny is more reliable than the torqshift. The allison has had more problems by far that the ts. I volunteered to take care of our fleet and over time I became partial to ford trucks cause they were the ones we had the least trouble with. The gm's had flow through ventalation even with everything closed up and all kinds of other little annoyances and dodge's were plauged with every kind of problem. with the fords we did have some problems with the electronic all wheel drive system in Areostar vans with the 4.0. Those babies were rocket ships and guys kept tearing up the drive train, engine and the rest of the van was bullet proof. The only big SD problem we ever had was with the e4od and that was caused by a guy that drove one 150 miles in second gear at better than 80. He said when he stopped it was making a strange sissleing noise and smoked a bit.

 

This is a little off topic but since yall were talkin about tranny's I figure Id throw this in. How is the new Aisin holding up in the dodges? I figure its to early to tell but I was just wondering if there having any problems with it so far.

 

Fron what I understand, that trans is only in their medium duty line. The light duty line got a re-worked Dodge trans with a 6 speed....