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Originally Posted by fastmax
Are there any engine power gains using the lightning files vs the regular files? I dont want to load it if the gains are made with transmission tuning.I dont want to kill my tranny.
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You can keep the stock exhaust. Diesels are alot more picky about EGT's since with just chips and tuners they make some crazy HP. And the biggest problem with high EGT's on diesels is the turbo (most of the time). Since the Edge Evo doesn't make any where near the HP that the diesels do and the 4.6/5.4 don't have turbos you are in the clear. Until you start to do some engine work or slap a super charger on top...
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Stock is fine, but you get to notice even greater results and greater increase in both power and economy with a free flowing exhaust. EGT's are a non issue for the gas applications. As with any engine, from a 1200 HP race engine to your lawn-mower....the engine will make more power if it can breath better. So increasing the intake and exhaust ability will only enhance what you already have. There are plenty of happy tuner owners with gas and diesel trucks and cars that have stock vehicles...but once they finish it off with an intake and exhaust they are typically VERY happy that they did it. A good engine can become a great engine with a tuner, and a great engine can be incredible with the right tweaks to the intake and exhaust. The beauty of the Edge and most shelf tunes is the ability to enhance the package that you have even stock. It just gets better from there.
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Originally Posted by superrangerman2002
The reason for changing the exhaust on a Turbo'ed diesel is to keep from melting the turbo due to mods.
Yes you can keep your stock exhaust.
Yes you can keep your stock exhaust.
Turbo's can take the heat much better, they are not alluminum...the pistons are alluminum. Where you worry about turbo heat is at shut down where you could coke the oil on the bushings/bearings if the turbo is above 350 or so degrees and you shut it down and stop the oil bath from flowing over the turbo bushings/bearings.
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OK, guys, I've had just about enough! Based on all the hoopla, I just ordered the Edge Evo and the K&N FIPK for a 2004 Lariat supercrew. The parts ought to get here this week' we'll see what happens.
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And you will love the change to your truck! It was a good time to get in on the Edge, On April 1st all Edge prices nation wide will go to Edge MVP Pricing. This will cause a nationwide increase in the price of Edge Products for many dealers like us that have been kicking them out the door at sub MAP prices. If you dont have it by April 1st, expect to pay around $440.10 for the F-150 Evolutions...this is the Edge MAP price, and all dealers will be required to honor this or face the wrath of Edge/MSD/Superchips. The penalty for being caught is banned for life from buying Edge products....and what dealer can afford that? No more Edge on Ebay at all.....no more coupons on Edge, no more click here to see the price, no more "sale" prices.....MVP MAP, or nothing.
The other way Edge/MSD/Superchips is going to enforce this is that any warranty calls will have to have proof of purchase with proof of purchase price. If you have an invoice dated after the 4-1-06 start of the MVP, and it is showing a price under the MVP programs MAP policy....you will be denied any and all support!
Read about it here:
http://www.edgeproducts.com/whats_happening.php?whak=1
http://www.msdpmvp.com/
The other way Edge/MSD/Superchips is going to enforce this is that any warranty calls will have to have proof of purchase with proof of purchase price. If you have an invoice dated after the 4-1-06 start of the MVP, and it is showing a price under the MVP programs MAP policy....you will be denied any and all support!
Read about it here:
http://www.edgeproducts.com/whats_happening.php?whak=1
http://www.msdpmvp.com/
Last edited by fordtrkpuller; Feb 17, 2007 at 09:45 PM.
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Any power adding device from an intake, tuner, exhaust, to headers, Nitous, camshafts can be used in a case to void a warranty. If you open the Edge manual they specifically tell you this and recomend that you remove the Edge Evolution from your truck before returning to a dealer. Anyone who says that a aftermarket performance part can not be used against you is not telling you the truth.
When I take my car (still warranted) into the dealer, the water meth, intake, electronic boost control and a few other odds and ends come off. It rolls in bone stock.
When I take my car (still warranted) into the dealer, the water meth, intake, electronic boost control and a few other odds and ends come off. It rolls in bone stock.
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Honestly it looks like the only thing the EDGE has over the Xcalibrator 2 Tuner is the Monitoring capabilities. To me those two tuners are all peope on this forum ever talk about. I mean you have a couple superchips and others. But the EDGE and Xcalibrator 2 Tuner seem to be the top tuners and the advantage that i see for the Edge tuner (over Xcalibrator 2) is te fact that it allows you to monitor levels on screen.
Its just so hard to decide when choosing a Tuner.
Ive narrowed it down though. Edge or Xcalibrator 2.
Its just so hard to decide when choosing a Tuner.
Ive narrowed it down though. Edge or Xcalibrator 2.
Last edited by bluephi1914; Feb 20, 2007 at 04:52 AM.
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Bluephi1914,
You can also now go with the SCT Livewire. It is a tuner with all the SCT Xca2 ability, with all of the guage/display features of the Evolution. It will cost about two hundred more than the Evolution, but will allow for a small amount of more power with much better transmission tuning.
The livewire has shipped from SCT, and is now in stock to start shipping to customers. Base livewires have the SCT Strategy Flash tunes, and custom tuned Live-Wires have the same Strat-Flash tunes PLUS the custom tunes.
You are pretty much on the money, no tuner seems to equal the Edge in value....value being bang for the buck. Also, no tuner can measure up to the SCT for all out power and trans control....it will make the very most power of all I have played with.
You can also now go with the SCT Livewire. It is a tuner with all the SCT Xca2 ability, with all of the guage/display features of the Evolution. It will cost about two hundred more than the Evolution, but will allow for a small amount of more power with much better transmission tuning.
The livewire has shipped from SCT, and is now in stock to start shipping to customers. Base livewires have the SCT Strategy Flash tunes, and custom tuned Live-Wires have the same Strat-Flash tunes PLUS the custom tunes.
You are pretty much on the money, no tuner seems to equal the Edge in value....value being bang for the buck. Also, no tuner can measure up to the SCT for all out power and trans control....it will make the very most power of all I have played with.
