I DON'T KNOW IF THE LAST REPAIRS THIS WEEK WILL BE IN OASIS YET. NORTHTOWN FORD ROC126795. NUMBER 4 AND 6 INJECTOR. THE SECOND REPLACEMENT OF BOTH FRONT WHEEL BEARINGS WILL NOT SHOW AS THAT WAS DONE UNDER EXTENDED WARRANTY CONTRACT. DATE OF REPAIR 3/14/05.

SECOND AND THIRD REPAIR OF INJECTORS DONE AT LUTHER FAMILY FORD, FARGO ND. FIRST RO54838 REPLACEMENT OF INJECTORS 2,4,6 DATE 3/17/05.
SECOND RO WILL NOT SHOW AS YET AS BRAD THE SERVICE MANAGER HAS TO GET WITH FORD. TOW BILL, REPLACE INJECTOR 8, ALONG WITH THE FUEL PUMP. THAT RO WILL HAVE TODAY'S DATE.

VIN 1FTWW32P65EA18226.

THAT WILL SHOW ALL THE REPAIRS ALONG WITH THE MILEAGE. VEHICLE HAS ALSO BEEN HOOKED TO THE COMPUTER TO CHECK POWER FADING ON THE GRADES. IT SHOWED VEHICLE WITH MAXIUM TURBO BOOST PRESSURE YET IT COULD NOT HOLD 55 MPH PULLING AT 2800 POUND EMPTY HORSE TRAILER. FOUR READINGS SHOWED THE SAME AND FORD HAS NOT COME UP WITH AN ANSWER IN FOUR MONTH.................................
I USE THIS FORUM TO STATE FACTS.

THE MAINTANCE ON THIS VEHICLE IS PERFORMED AT THE REQUIRED TIME. OIL CHANGE, FILTER CHANGE, TRANS SERVICE, REAR END SERVICE, ALL BY FORD DEALERS.
THIS TRUCK HAS NEVER PULLED ANYTHING HEAVIER THAN 11K POUNDS. NOT NEAR WHAT FORD SAYS IT CAN TOW. THE VEHICLE NEVER EXCEEDS THE SPEEDLIMIT. FUEL IS ALWAYS FROM A MAJOR NAMEBRAND TRUCK STOP.
THIS VEHICLE HAS NEVER BEEN ABUSED.
I DRIVE LEGAL AS MY LOGS ARE CHECK AS THEY ARE SENT IN.......SO MUCH FOR THE TIRED DRIVER.
I CAME FROM A FORD DEALERSHIP AND AM QUITE AWARE OF WHOM TO CONTACT WITH PROBLEMS........THEY GO ON DEAF EARS. EVIDENTUALLY YOU HAVE NEVER TRIED THEIR HOTLINE..........WORTHLESS.
I HAVE GONE THRU SIX INJECTORS THIS WEEK IN THREE DAYS. AND IT HAS COST ME ABOUT SEVEN HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR EVERY DAY I SIT. FORD UNLIKE GM CHANGES ON THE AFFECTED INJECTORS, EVENTHOUGH THERE MAY BE SEVERAL THAT HAVE BEEN PULLED DOWN AND ARE WEAK. THEY CAN ONLY REPLACE BAD ONES. THAT IS THE PROBLEM. THEY SHOULD ALL BE REPLACED. I AM NOT GOING TO GO INTO THE SPECIFIC REASONS.
AS FOR THE WHEEL BEARINGS FORD DID NOT GET ENOUGH GREASE IN THE BEARINGS. MY LEFT ONE WENT OUT BEFORE FORD RECOMMENDED CHECKING THE GREASE. WE CHECKED THE RIGHT ONE ON IT HAD VERY LITTLE GREASE IN IT AND THE BEARING ITSELF WAS RUSTED..........DEALER COULD NOT BELIEVE..........I HAVE THE BEARING AND HAVE YET HAD NO RESPONSE FROM FORD. INJECTORS ARE A PROBLEM WITH THE 6.0. I PERSONALLY KNOW 16 PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD AN ENGINE REPLACED AT LEAST ONCE. SEVERAL HAVE HAD THREE ENGINES WITHIN THE FIRST FOURTY THOUSAND MILES. ALONG WITH NUMEROUS TRANSMISSIONS. AS FOR THE SHUTTER IN THE REAR END IT IS CAUSED FOR THE CLUTCHES WHICH HAVE BEEN REPLACE BY FORD AS THE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THEM. THEY WERE DONE WITHIN THE FIRST WEEK. FORD SAYS YOU JUST LIVE WITH THE SHUTTER, THERE IS NOTHING MORE THEY CAN DO.
I LOVE THE ROOMY INTERIOR AND THE RIDE. MY PROBLEM IS THAT THIS FORD TRUCK CAN NOT PREFORM AS ADVERTISED. THERE IS NO WAY THIS VEHICLE WOULD TOW THE NINETEEN THOUSAND POUNDS THEY CLAIM IT WILL.
THEY ALSO HAVE A PROBLEM WHEN YOU PULL A GRADE OF THE TEMP GUAGE GOING ALL THE WAY TO HOT AND THE COOLING FAN SOUNDS AS IF IT IS GOING TO COME OFF. THE REASON THE FAN RUNS BACKWARDS..........
THIS TRUCK SHOULD DO WHAT I DO WITH NO PROBLEM..............IT DOES NOT................AND CONTRARY TO MANY PEOPLE IN THIS FORM IT IS A COMMON PROBLEM FOR PEOPLE WHO USE THE TRUCK FOR HAULING AS IT IS ADVERTISED TO DO.............I HAVE BEEN IN SEVERAL FORD DEALERSHIPS AND THE DIESEL MECHANICS WILL TELL YOU THIS ENGINE IS NOT FOR HEAVY WORK. THIS HAS ALSO BEEN TOLD TO ME BY THREE FORD DEALERSHIP OWNERS.,..............................

But Firetail. Sittin on your rear for that long each day, I can see why you've got a bur up there.

All kidding aside, You say that Ford does nothing. That the truck is junk in so many words. And that one may very well be. But you are the minority. There are plenty of very satisfied PSD owners. Many that tow heavy, but within rated capacities. That said, If you want to use this forum as a sounding board, I don't think you'll be accepted very well if you don't set some facts down. 4wd? 2wd? Torqueshift? Modifications to the truck? Repeated service for components? Small dealer service departments? Do you allow them the time necessary to correctly diagnose the issues? Ford is no help? Have you contacted FMC customer serviced or have you just dealt with the service manager from Ford in TimBuckToo? Have you gone back to the dealer you purchased from? No help?

I do understand your frustration. Especially since it appears that you use your truck to earn a living. But to use this forum to slam the rig is probably not going to get you very much assistance. We'll just say that attitude appears to be pronounced in your posts.

05' Injectors are not specifically known for failure that I know of. I assume that you're changing the engine oil on a regular 'extreme service' schedule? Have you gone to a synthetic oil yet? Your rear end vibrations could be caused by a number of things. Did this start the day the truck was put into service? As for no power... Was the truck broken in correctly? Or put into service towing heavily from day one. Did power fade away, or was any there to begin with? Has this rig had a reflash? Regarding the left front wheel bearings. One failure, well, we can accept that. Repeated failure of the same component would quite possibly indicate an issue with the spindle, rotor or installation.

If your truck qualifies for any lemon laws, then I suggest you invoke that. There's no reason to spend that kind of money on a truck you're not satisfied with, is unreliable or unsafe.

I do have to question why anyone would press an F350 into this type of service. Yes, an F650 would be a better choice for that many loaded miles every day. Sort of like using a little Toyota to tow my camp trailer. Just because it can, doesn't mean that it should. Extended service the likes of 80,000 miles in four or so months is a bit extreme. These are consumer vehicles.

-Steve
04' F250sc 4x4 PSD 6spd Line-X. Never been to the dealer for an issue.
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I wish I could offer you some advice. I hate to see people who are trying to make a living go through this sort of tourment. Keep updating as I am sure many would like to hear the outcome of your troubles.

 

THE f350 is not just a consumer truck ford builds it to be a work truck first and consumer second, it seems he just got a bad truck.

 

If you are really having issues that are that terrible with your truck: My advice...do whatever makes you happy. Sell it, trade it in, service it somewhere else (remember it's under warranty), drive it off a cliff, give it to a panhandler...whatever.
Complaining about it here is a waste of time. If you have questions about stuff and want answers or support, that's cool...this is the place. But..if you came here to spew so you could vent your personal frustration, we don't want to hear it.
We can't possibly know if this is truth, exaggeration, B.S., owner abuse, service negligence or what...because we are on the Internet.
You have to understand that when a new user comes on here and bashes what we are afficianatos about...it draws questions. Love it or leave it, I say.

 

Well put dogdude. I still smell bowties in the signature.

 

Matt,

Are you able to run the VIN on OASIS?
I am unable to do it anymore

Firetail
I am amazed at the frequency with which the injectors are required to be replaced.
Have the dealerships told you what is wrong with them?
Do they just "Fail"?
They should be able to bench test them.
I would suggest that it is not the injectors themselves, but something else.
Without being there, I couldn't tell you what though (this is the dealerships job).
03's did have a problem with the injectors, however if they were going to fail, they show up real early in the life of the vehicle.
04's and 05's have NO known problems - as far as I am aware that is.
There are many users here with so called "bad" injectors that are having no troubles with them.

In regard to "NOT HOLD 55 MPH PULLING AT 2800 POUND EMPTY HORSE TRAILER"
This sounds like the vanes in the turbo may for some reason be sticking - not entirely sure though, it could have many causes.
When driving empty does it feel like the engine actually looses power as it increases its rpm?
Again, it is the dealerships responsibility to diagnose it correctly.

With the stutter in the rear end, do you have an LSD?
Is it just while turning?
You state that the vehicle is capable of towing 19000lbs so I assume you have an F350 DRW with the tow boss package, is this correct?
DRW's have a tight LSD - I actually prefer this, is great for off-roading - but I understand some users don't appreciate it with low speed turns.

If you contact ONE dealer, ask to speak to the Service Manager, explain all of your concerns, and explain the history behind them.
They can then arrange for the vehicle to come in be looked at, and have full support from Ford as well.

I personally have seen a 6.0l tow a 30000lb Cab over truck that was broken down.
I don't recommend this, or condone it, but it did happen.
This trucks are built to tow/haul a lot, I appreciate your experience hasn't supported this, but there are a lot of users on here, and few have reported the concerns you are having.
The 6.0l (admittedly a detuned version, but a 6.0l nonetheless) can be fitted to a F750 and have a GCW of up to 80000lbs!!!

 

You have a 2005 and you're into the extended warranty already? How does that work?

 

I still wonder why everyone here believes this guy, he's trolling to get on your nerves. He probably has a Chevy or a Dodge of Toyota. Having a Ford lemon is not uncommon, it happens. He says he knows 16 people that have Ford trucks and all of them have problems, some have had complete engine replacements and some have had whole tranny's replaced. He also says the Ford truck does not perform as advertised. Maybe his truck does not perform as advertised (if in fact he does have one, which I doubt) so he paints all Ford trucks with a wide brush and say they don't perform and can't pull. Come on guy's you don't believe this do you? What are the odds, everyone he knows that has a Ford truck, has problems? I didn’t think that there were so many gullible people.......... Most on this site come here to look for answers and find recommendations for their truck, so you will find a lot of users here that have issues. To say that all or most Ford trucks are problematic is ludacrist. When I bought my truck from Sunset Ford in Fontana Kalifornia, they are the #2 dealer for Ford trucks in Kali. Galpin Ford is #1. At the time I bought my first F-350, V-10, the first batch of 03, 6.0 PSD had about a 10% return rate for issues. This is my second truck from Sunset (04, PSD, Dually) and I go there for my maintenance, my service rep tells me that the 04 issues are way down. If you look at Ford Sunset inventory (go to website and check it out) will find more than 100 Super Duty's, so that's allot of trucks. I have talked to some guys that are in the SOCAL Power Stroke club that meets at Sunset Ford and most have never had an issue the 6.0 PSD. So I know my service rep is not lying to me.

 

Guys, I hate to bust any bubbles (as I formed an opinon too)

But this guy ain't full of it I just pulled his OASIS, everything he has stated is obviously fact.

Firetail, the suspension problems are probably a random occurance. This is a new suspension, and while problem so far have been minimal, it is not out of place to have some issues.

The EGR is a normal replacement part too, but the injectors and engine are not. The engine failure shows as due to excessive wear, reported from excessive fuel in oil. The whole problem boils down to the death of injectors- 14 injectors in a row do not fail from random mechanical issues. There is something else going on here.

There are really only two things that can cause this- fuel and oil. What kind of oil are you running? How often do you change it? Are you running straight number 2 fuel, any kind of additive, off-road fuel, anything out of the ordinary? Have you been changing the fuel filters and draining the water?

Any kind of maintenance information you can provide will be extremely helpful.

Personally, if I were you, the VERY FIRST thing I would be doing is sending out for the free oil analysis kit from Blackstone Laboratories. The actualy analysis is only 20 dollars, and will provide TONS of information into your problems.

 

This guy seemed to take time to answer your questions. I have and will always be a Ford Enthusiast....Period... However I am having some problems with my 04 6.0 torqueshift CC 4x4. I use my truck for work not hauling kids to soccer or going to the store for a gallon of milk. If this guy is legit, I can understand his frustration. However he doesn't seem to want advise on what to do, just b***h. He may be a Dog owner.

 

What does that mean Paclik?? LOL

 

IF these problems are real it seems to be what I now call the dealership factor,as in they dont have any techs trained on the 6.0. Which I BELIEVE IS THE PROBLEM IN MOST AREAS OF THE COUNTRY. FOR instance it seems there are few less problems in TX. WHERE diesels have been popular for a longer period. compared to my area memphis where we have 10 ford stores and most only have one trained 6.0 tech. and none have any at least in my experience that are what I would call good techs. just parts changers.

 

That's funny coming from a dog owner

 

It would be appropriate for everyone to stop alluding to the fact that the original poster here is a trolling Dodge or Chevy owner; I have just confirmed this as false throught FMC. These are legitimate problems, and it would be fairly fitting of the posters here to provide any assistance they can...

 

I for one stand humbly ashamed that I made assumptions about the bowties in the signature. It sure sounded like a BS post. I offer my sincere appologies. I hope the diesel guru's here can offer this guy some help.