They might have the option of both. To satisfy everybody.

 

I dont know how we got from psd vs cummins to sfa vs ifs. I guess it depends on what your gonna use it for. IFS has a better ride quality in all situations. Ill take a sfa any day for my purposes. I had an ifs and it is a nice ride.

 

Not just the half ton. I had a 3/4 ton last year with the 300. It was strong. They also make a medium duy 300 for medium duty trucks. A friend of mine has one in his living room waiting for a donor truck. Ive seen a couple in box vans. Probably had a different cam profile and lower governer.

 

I'd say they are expanding leaps and bounds and are ahead of this 2002 projection.
http://www.fordforums.com/showthread.php?t=18766

 

There not quite there but GM has made great strides in the diesel market. Fords fighting back with there 6.0l. Ford has one big advantage though they have the better overall truck. Id put that Superduty several notches above any truck that GM or Dodge puts out. The crewcab market is huge and Fords crewcab is definitly top of the line. More room than anybody else. I love that. I have ridden in GMs crewcab and it doesnt have near the room. Dodge well just an extended cab with a door. Cramped also. If you went to a Ford crewcab to a GM your going from tons of room to cramped quarters. One big reason Ford will be the market leader. Ill bet GMs redesighn of there HD trucks will increase cab room. I can just say its a given. I dont own a superduty. But when I rode with a friend that has one I fell in love with the truck. If you park all 3 trucks with crewcabs side by side Ill bet more people would choose the Ford. Its a given.

 

Cummins just won the Ford powerstroke series BTW. Lots of people dont like all the computer controls on all the new diesels. there all prone to problems, it seems to be a hit or miss deal for some reason. I personally have a CTD and love it, I have never owned a PSD but have driven some and the last 6.9 I drove reminded how far they all have come. PSD 6.0s have had there share of problems you cant deny. Has anyone ever seen the comparo of internals of the 3, Cummins stuff is pretty beefy. It is a medium duty engine for industrial applications. The PSD and Dura are still light duty. Again, Im not bashing anyone. I would like to buy a new 4x4, but from what I see these days 40k for something thats gonna fall apart is not to good. They all have their issues.Duras have injector and head problems I hear. Dodge, poor mileage, IP, LP problems. PSD, grenading engines. what do you buy these days????

 

I haven't heard of these grenading PSDs. Last I heard, 98% of them are still on the road, and the beefy Cummins can't claim that. The PSD and Duramax may be light duty engines, but they're in light duty trucks. The Cummins is a medium duty, and it's this way beause Dodge is trying to overcompensate for the rest of the truck being ultra-light duty, so they try to overkill the truck with an engine that their transmissions can't even stand up to.

 

Lets see ,2k miles on my buddies 04 PSD and and the trans is now laying on hwy 41 in little chunks. Autos suck IMO and Fords are no better it seems. Im not trying to start a war by any means. Maybe you should research all the PSD buybacks, and problems on the 6.0s only. BTW, I have yet to see a CTD grenade, even with 500k on it. As mentioned anyone who spends 40K on a new truck deserves better than a factory defect be it Dodge or Ford Or Chevy.

 

At least its under warranty but a hassle non the less. Hey Im not a Dodge person. But the cummins is good. Dodge has just never had the truck to go with it. Ford sells twice as many diesel as Dodge. Mainly because of there lack of a truck to go with it. I hate the way the Dodge looks compared to the superduty. The new bodystyle doesnt impress me one bit. It actually looks smaller compared to the old.

 

I have heard of the Dodge IP probs but the LP (i am guessing Lift pump?) If they still have the same one as the 2001 CTD it should last as long as the engine. Although the carter pums are supposed to be mounted near and blow the tank not on the engine so I guess anything is possible. But I am gonna say that Dodge is doing the smart thing by having a medium duty engine in thier trucks rather than Ford and GM (and Navistar) putting light duty engines in thier medium duty trucks. The PSD and Duramax have no business in TopKicks and the like.

 

Wow, there's a lot of discussion here. That's great because I've been wondering the same thing about the two motors. It seems like Ford and Dodge has always been head to head. It's close, but I like the Ford PSD. It's not because I'm just a loyal Ford guy, it's because I really like the PSD. I'll chip in what I've noticed. I haven't read all the posts so I'm not sure if this has been mentioned. What I did read had great information so I'll have to read the rest tonight, but here's what I've noticed from driving both.

The Cummins will start right up after sitting for weeks with hardly and crank time. Turn the key, she cranks for about a second, and then that familiar rattle is there. Cummins motors start like this in any weather when they are working right. That is one thing I love about the Cummins. Now, the PSD on the otherhand is a bit different. After sitting for a while, they don't always like to start right up. I hate to say this, but Cummins motors win hands down in the starting area. These motors have a lot less crank time and start much better. I somtimes wonder if my PSD is going to start after sitting a long time. Sometimes it just takes to long to start and doesn't start right up. It does start eventually, but takes a while sometimes.

The second thing I've noticed is that the Cummins will rattle more at idle. I know the newer motors are quieter, but the PSD has more of a mellow sound at idle which is important when you have neighbors nearby and you have to let your truck idle. The Cummins doesn't seem as loud when you are on the throttle. I like how you can really hear the PSD when you get on it a bit. I think it's important to have a good quiet idle and that's what I like with the PSD.

Other than that, the PSD does have a higher RPM limit and will allow for faster speeds uphill when you need to gas it a bit. That's not really important to me as the speed limits are low in my area, but it's nice to know you have the power at a higher crusing RPM just incase you need it.

In regards to hopups, I think there's a lot of options for both motors, but a Cummins that is hopped up can really get some power. PSD's can too though. So they're about the same there.

With engine life in mind, I see a lot of PSD in the 250k range that run just like the day they drove their first mile. These motors keep going.

A big reason why I went with Ford is because of the Super Duty body style. I love that look! I know we are talking about the motors here, but I thought I'd add this to the discussion. This is important for a family. Dodge's crewcab is a joke, quad cab with doors that open out. I love Fords so I'd only go Ford.

FORD'S NUMBER ONE!!!!!!!!!!!! "

If you're gonna stroke it, powerstroke it!"

 

piper,
You might want to check you glow plug relay. They are known to go bad and if they do, they can give the hard start symptoms you describe above, as well as melt your wiring harness!!! That is the worst part. Those harnesses go to the glow plugs and to the injectors and they aren't cheap.

 

Holy smokes, no pun intended, that can really melt the wiring harness? No, they aren't cheap so I wouldn't want to send those wires up in smoke. That hard starting is only once in awhile, but I'll take your advice and check it sometime. Thanks bigsnag.

PS, you aren't the bigsnag off Monster Garage are you?? LOL, just wondering.

 

Not on Monster garage. I wish!!!! I didn't mean to scare you. It won't melt the whole thing and it's not a fire hazard. It will just eventually fry the connection where it goes under the tappet covers, but that in effect ruins the whole harness so you have to buy a new one.

 

That sucks about the tranny that exploded, but that's not the engine. Also, in my research, I found less than 500 6.0 PSD buybacks. I have seen a CTD grenade, actually a couple of them. None of them were even close to 500k. I agree, though, anyone who spends that much money doesn't deserve a factory defect.