http://www.pickuptruck.com/html/otf0999.html
I can't remember that any of those figures right there didn't have the little green arrow beside them to let you know that their sales are going up.

 

The duramax has 25% of the diesel market. Ford has 50% of the market. Dodge the other 25%. Just stating facts here. Back to topic. BTW I think Ford willsteal some of GMs market share with the new superduty coming out. Its awesome. As far as shortage of Duramaxes on lots. Ford has way more production capacity for powerstrokes than GM has for the duramax. So that means nothing.

 

Why dont they expand the production of the dmax? If they sell every one of em they make. Why not make more? Usually a manufacturer will smother a market. I dont understand whats going on.
Breathing aside. Stroke still has the largest affect on torque. Short stroke inlines can rev a lot higher. More rpms. More work. These long stroke diesels barely made 200 hp not to long ago. But they made 400lb ft. Good enough to move a small mountain.
Now they are in a hp war and all of em make over 300. Thanks to the dmax. Got the war started. Lit a fire under their butts when they saw their market shrinking.
Now dodge and chevy are at or over 600lb ft. Never thought I would see a light duty with over 600lb ft in my lifetime. Thats medium duty torque. They spec it out to tow 36k lbs in some apps. Well Ive seen a few with 40-50k but I dont think that is reasonable if you want to maintain highway speeds on anything bigger than a 1% grade.

 

Another little tidbit of info. A GMC Topkick C8500 Tandem Axle truck equiped with the 8.1L Vortec (same numbers as with the pickups) has a GVWR of 61,000 pounds. Same scenario as above. And they say they are the only manafacturer to offer a gas engine in class 6 and 7 medium duty trucks.
And my mind is screaming, YOU EVER WONDER WHY YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE TO?!

 

Holy smokes what kind of gas mileage would that get. 2mpg. Whats there thinking?

 

ummmm Hey I got a idea, Buy a bob tail that has the same GVWR!!!

 

Whoever said GM thought alot? Ain't the only bad thing GM has ever done. The next I can think of is converting a gasser to a diesel. For those who don't know, GM converted a gas 5.7L 350 V8 and a gas 4.3L 260 V6 to diesels.

 

That's what some of our school buses get. We have a fleet of eight buses consisting of 3 gas Chevy's, 3 5.9L Cummins Fords, 1 DT466 International, and our newest one, a 7.2L 3126 Caterpillar Blue Bird. I am pretty good friends with our school mechanic and he says the gas Chevy's get about 2 MPG. I watched a tach on one of those buses before and it was at 4200 RPM@60 MPH. He says the Ford buses with the Cummins get about 8 MPG, and he doesn't know about the Int'l or the Cat Blue Bird, because they are the two newest ones.
It sucks. I'm still stuck with one of the old gas Chevy's. I want to be able to hear the diesel every day. It would give me another reason to look forward to school.

 

Well if you want a all around truck buy the Ford PSD If any one pulls 24/7 they are lieing out of there teeth what you want is a truck that can hook on to your buddys trailer to go to the Rodeo while his dodge is in the shop geting the tranny fixed. And you also want a truck that you can go to town in and get parts for the real truck sitting at home your 73-76 Ford F250. And also not having any power to pull any thing because it runs just like a gas engine in you Duramax really is a shame And when you get all those funny looks because you dodge is so ugly oh thats right its in the shop getting tranny work. Personaly I would never buy any thing but a Ford and rather walk than buy any thing else.

 

Actually the published number in Motor Trend is 30% as well as several other sites. The Wall street Journal published 38%. Also the Rumor from GM is that the upgraded DMax is gonna be running 335 hp with 605 tq.

 

At least your getting closer to 25% vs 35%. At least Ford puts more power to the ground than the duramax. Thats what counts. They should be equal in power. With the new superduty updates and the 6.0 getting less problems. I believe GM will lose some marketshare to Ford. BTW at all the truck pulls Ive yet to see a duramax win. The fords a better pulling truck. Case closed Ford the only way to go. JK Ive just heard Ford upgraded there power to 600 H at 800 lbs torque. Theres the leader for you. There I go again. JK.

 

It's funny you should mention truck pulls. Most Fords I see at them are the 7.3 and the events are usually dominated by cummins motors. I've yet to see a Duramx or a 6.0 win. The 7.3 and the cummin's motors usuually have the torque coming on quite a bit sooner. Entered a few local pulls with the 7.3

 

That's HUGE compared to the 6.5 pre Dmax days when the market sahre was 1.1%

 

Yeh your right. I see mostly 7.3 also. Did see a 6.0 the other day. It pulled great. I have to admit the cummins do good at truck pulls. Hard to beat that inline 6 for torque. Reminds me of the 300 6. Similar design.. Ive never pulled myself but love watching them. A couple are coming up. I hope to go to them. This pulling thing has a lot to do with the driver. Experience counts. Tires and weight distribution so important. Off the subject here. Ive been scanning the net and I believe GM will be going to solid axle on there HD trucks in the future. That should be great news for GM fans. GM might gain a ton of market share with this option. In another way though thats admitting that the straight axle is superior than IFS. GM really lost out there when Ford come out with there powerstroke back in 1994. It totally outpowered GM and was more relaible. It took GM 7 years to compete with it. I dont think GM was to serious about there trucks then. They should have never let that happen. Thats waht I like about Ford theyve always prided themselves on there trucks. Made sure there trucks were class leaders. There cars though have not kept up. Maybe with the new models

 

SFA - Really?? I don't know if IFS vs. SFA is a deciding point for a lot of people. But that would be cool. And from the post I put out it seems kinda borderline what people want. I personally would take a SFA if I didn't have to give up ride and ground clearence.

Yea experience is huge at a pull. I don't have a whole lot (a lil)- it was still a fast 300' for the lighter pulls. Fun time too....