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Old Jul 23, 2004 | 03:20 PM
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The LS6, though a good stock engine, does not respond as well to modifications when compared to the 5.4L. Supercharge both of them and the Cobra engine will destroy the bowtie. Sorry, that's just the way it is.
Sorry that's just the way it is??? Where do you get your information from? I think you've been sucking on the big blue oval nipple too long. There's a LS1/ LS6 performance shop here in Orlando. http://www.vincihighperformance.com They have no problem getting N/A ZO6's in the 9's. That's just straight line accelleration. A Z will dismantel a slobra on a road course. Just to put it in prospective a Cobra all the way up to '03 couldn't even dust off a 6 speed spec'd out LS1 Camaro SS. Now Cobra guys have their sights set on Z06 Vettes? Dream on . Stock vs Stock a Cobra 'Stang will lose all day long.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2004 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 04F250CC60
Sorry that's just the way it is??? Where do you get your information from? I think you've been sucking on the big blue oval nipple too long. There's a LS1/ LS6 performance shop here in Orlando. http://www.vincihighperformance.com They have no problem getting N/A ZO6's in the 9's. That's just straight line accelleration. A Z will dismantel a slobra on a road course. Just to put it in prospective a Cobra all the way up to '03 couldn't even dust off a 6 speed spec'd out LS1 Camaro SS. Now Cobra guys have their sights set on Z06 Vettes? Dream on . Stock vs Stock a Cobra 'Stang will lose all day long.

I'll second that. Mustang has always lagged behind in performance to the Camaro, and wouldn't even touch a Corvette. Sorry, thats just the way it is!
 
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Old Jul 23, 2004 | 03:52 PM
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It might not be the fastest but peole have a affair with the Mustang. The camaro is gone. The Mustang lives.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2004 | 03:54 PM
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A true legend never dies.......it will be back
 
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Old Jul 23, 2004 | 03:59 PM
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I'll second that. Mustang has always lagged behind in performance to the Camaro, and wouldn't even touch a Corvette. Sorry, thats just the way it is!
Let's not get carried away.....from 1986 to 1992 the 5 liter Mustangs slapped the Camaros around like rented mules. The closest the Camaros could come was with a low optioned Z-28 350/Auto combo and then it all depended on the driver as they were that close with the Mustangs tending to have a slight edge.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2004 | 04:10 PM
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Let's not get carried away.....from 1986 to 1992 the 5 liter Mustangs slapped the Camaros around like rented mules. The closest the Camaros could come was with a low optioned Z-28 350/Auto combo and then it all depended on the driver as they were that close with the Mustangs tending to have a slight edge.

Yeah but the Camaro's still won. And lets not forget that the 93-03 6CYL would outrun the GT with no problems........that is truely sad Can't say I have ever seen a Z28 outrun by a NA 6 cyl
 
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Old Jul 23, 2004 | 04:13 PM
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I don't know where you raced, but again, from 86 to 92 the Camaros didn't win....pre 86 and post 92 (especially post 92) the Camaros definitely held the high ground.
I am not defending either vehicle here, merely pointing out that the Mustang has not always lagged behind the Camaro in performance.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2004 | 05:18 PM
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From 1979 till the awful demise of the GM F bodies the 'Stang never had an engine with a higher horsepower output than it's GM rival. Here's a website you can check out. http://www.home.pon.net/hunnicutt/history_mustVScam.htm
 
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Old Jul 23, 2004 | 05:28 PM
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The EFI 302 in the Mustang would smoke the 305 any day. GM had to put a 350 in to compete. In that respect the 302 was superior to the 305. Just a thought. From 1986 to 1992 the mustang gained a lot of popularity ousting the Camaro fromGM. One of the reasons for its demise.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2004 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 04F250CC60
From 1979 till the awful demise of the GM F bodies the 'Stang never had an engine with a higher horsepower output than it's GM rival. Here's a website you can check out. http://www.home.pon.net/hunnicutt/history_mustVScam.htm
I don't much care if it had 500 more HP than the Mustang, the bottom line was, the Mustang out performed it in every category except handling/braking during that timeframe.

I have owned 2 LT-1 Camaros, a 93 auto and a 94 6 speed and they would handle any unmodified Mustang, but I've also owned several Fox Body 5L Mustangs and they would easily handle any non-LT 1 unmodified Camaro.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2004 | 08:51 PM
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Sorry that's just the way it is??? Where do you get your information from? I think you've been sucking on the big blue oval nipple too long. There's a LS1/ LS6 performance shop here in Orlando. http://www.vincihighperformance.com They have no problem getting N/A ZO6's in the 9's. That's just straight line accelleration. A Z will dismantel a slobra on a road course. Just to put it in prospective a Cobra all the way up to '03 couldn't even dust off a 6 speed spec'd out LS1 Camaro SS. Now Cobra guys have their sights set on Z06 Vettes? Dream on . Stock vs Stock a Cobra 'Stang will lose all day long.
Look no further than the numbers. A Z06 with a Magnussen blower goes 12.8 in the quarter mile. A new Cobra with a pulley and a bassani exhaust goes 12.5. It does it with less displacement, and far lower cost. There is no possible way a Camaro SS could beat a Cobra. Stock Camaro SS is 5.2 seconds to 60. Stock 03 Cobra is 4.6 to 60. And if you want to talk stock vs. stock, at least pick something in the same category. Put your Z06 against Ford's 2 seater performance car, the GT, and get your booty handed to you.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2004 | 08:52 PM
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Yeah but the Camaro's still won. And lets not forget that the 93-03 6CYL would outrun the GT with no problems........that is truely sad Can't say I have ever seen a Z28 outrun by a NA 6 cyl
Not the 99 and up GTs. That's when they went to the PI heads. 260 hp, 0-60 in 5.5 seconds.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2004 | 09:18 PM
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a blown z06 would never run a12.8 1/4 mile are you kidding me. you might be thinking about a 1/2 mile track. and then to say a near stock mustang gt could beat it, wow, unfortunately brand loyallty has seeped into your brain. altho very amusing. thanks i havent laughed that hard in a long time.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2004 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 73Fastbackv10
Look no further than the numbers. A Z06 with a Magnussen blower goes 12.8 in the quarter mile. A new Cobra with a pulley and a bassani exhaust goes 12.5. It does it with less displacement, and far lower cost. There is no possible way a Camaro SS could beat a Cobra. Stock Camaro SS is 5.2 seconds to 60. Stock 03 Cobra is 4.6 to 60. And if you want to talk stock vs. stock, at least pick something in the same category. Put your Z06 against Ford's 2 seater performance car, the GT, and get your booty handed to you.

You need to do a little research before you make yourself look silly again. A Z06 running 12.8 with a blower? Please. My brand new 04 not even broken yet Z06 has gone 12.44 @ 117. I think there is more left in the car if I run on drag radials and can get the short times down a little more. I've seen mostly stock WS6 Trans Am's go 12.90's, and that sure isn't far off what the 03-04 Cobra's run.


Yeah, maybe a modded Cobra can accelerate with a stock Z06, but put them on a road course and the Cobra won't even be close enough to see the Vette's tail lights.

Oh, and how can Ford's GT be in the same category as the Z06 when it costs 3-4X as much?
 

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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 01:09 AM
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I'm taking the number right out of the last issue of Hot Rod magazine. The had their true street challenge and those were two of the top 50 cars. Maybe the guy in the Z06 just couldn't drive, who knows. I just copied the numbers out of the magazine.

The Ford GT, while even though more expensive than the Z06 is closer in comparison to the Corvette than a Cobra. Both are two seaters, both are basically race cars for the street. The Cobra is a 4 seater that looks like a lifted truck next to the two.

Albert25, please learn how to read and the rest of us won't laugh at you. I never said a stock mustang gt, I said a stock GT, as in Ford GT, as in the reincarnated GT40. Unfortunately, your first post is quite amusing due to the fact that you think someone is dumb enough to say a mustang GT could beat ANY corvette, let alone a Z06.
 
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